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Cindy

Here's the best photo of grieving mom Cindy Sheehan yet:

grieving mom

Despite her many claims that this has nothing to do with politics (as if someone who writes for Michael Moore's web site and insists that the President is a brazen liar and that we're in a war for Israel and oil could seriously say that) I now see she's also targeting the House Majority Leader.

Good way to stay out of politics while you're grieving, Cindy.

Her most inspiring quote so far: "I'm just so honored that the universe chose me to be the spark that has set off a raging inferno."

Every time I think I'm done writing about Cindy Sheehan, the universe intervenes and prevents me from putting away my keyboard. Apparently the universe has chosen me to be the wet blanket for her glorious spark.

In any case, I'm glad to see that she's obviously happier and more fulfilled today than she probably has been in many, many years.

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Timothy Snyder:
So, one photo a her smiling means that she isn't still grieveing? That's a rather weak argument to support your position. Granted, I think she's a naive opportunist that's being used by professional opportunists, but a single photo? C'mon.

While I agree that her actions actually DISHONOR her son's memory and service, please don't start posting photos of people in seemingly compromising positions and shout, "SEE!! SEE!! Look how John Kerry throws a football. How could THAT man be POTUS?"

That's the kind of stuff I expect from hack right wing bloggers like this site I stumbled upon called something like "The Queen of All Evil." I don't expect that from Dean's World. ;-)

That being said, I greatly admire the diversity of Dean's World. Where else can you discuss the Iraq war, Race issues, AND the a guy dying that invented the MOOG synthesizer? ((love the mass outpouring of interest on that thread. chirp chirp) Oh, and don't forget the requests for help for a "friend" who just plowed his 1985 Chevy van into a crowded parking lot filled with nuns because he was driving AND surfing child porn, got distracted, and now needs cosmetic surgery to repair his front tooth.
8.27.2005 10:07am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
The universe has a funny sense of humor.

HAIL TO THE QUEEN OF ALL EVIL....!!!!
8.27.2005 10:34am
Bryan Costin (mail) (www):
But Dean, she's crying inside.
8.27.2005 11:27am
DSmith (mail) (www):
Boy, no pleasing some people. :)

As to Cindy Sheehan, who says she's grieving? I've seen zero evidence of that so far.
8.27.2005 11:28am
jaymaster (mail):
It looks like Dean’s World’s number came up today as a target site for some lefty “debate” (i.e. propaganda/re-education program).

It would be kind of amusing if it weren’t so damn tiring to see the same old fallacious talking points spewed over and over again.
8.27.2005 12:22pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
Republicans should rejoice every time Sheehan steps in front of a camera. She makes it look like all the Dems are moonbats like her.
8.27.2005 1:34pm
TallDave (mail) (www):
I think the grieving ended when the exploiting began.
8.27.2005 1:35pm
Arnold Harris (mail):
I don't give a damn whether she is fulfilled or not. She is not entitled to even a whit more sympathy or attention than any other millions of relatives of the many hundreds of thousands of servicemen and servicewomen who lost their lives on active duty during the past two generations going back to 1941.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
8.27.2005 1:50pm
Rosemary Esmay (www):
Hack? Fuck you, Tim!

And I mean that in the most caring and loving way. :-)
8.27.2005 1:53pm
Timothy Snyder:
Hey, I'm just lucky when I actually post my comments on the right thread. Content? That's a whole different story altogether. Did I say "hack?" I can't believe I actually called you a hack. I must have been referring to Mark Noonan's blog.
8.27.2005 2:32pm
Rosemary Esmay (www):
Well, Mark Noonan that's an entirely different story then...
8.27.2005 3:20pm
M. Scott Eiland (mail):
This reminds me of the rather notorious video taken at Ron Brown's funeral that showed Bill Clinton laughing and talking with someone--until he turned slightly and realized a camera was pointed at him, at which time his expression instantly turned somber. Pure Slick Willie.
8.27.2005 4:12pm
Timothy Snyder:
Yeah, M. Scott, Clinton was totally happy that Ron Brown died...in fact, he was responsible for his death, just like the other untold murders committed by Clinton...jeez...it must be sad to be you.
8.27.2005 5:32pm
Kristian H. (mail) (www):

Yeah, M. Scott, Clinton was totally happy that Ron Brown died...
Not so much that. I doubt any reasonable person would even suggest that. But rather, the grieved emotion that was presented could be very easily interpreted as...well...fake. That the demonstration in public was not the true feelings of the individual. At the same time, it is possible that the happy face was the fake one. Many a public figure has had to smile and act happy when deeply upset. OTOH, with 20/20 hindsight, many reasonable people could question the authenticity of President Clinton's dipslay of grief.

Similarly, Ms. Sheehan's actions and previous statements could lead reasonable people to conclude that some of her public current demonstrations may not be entirely honest. Not saying that is true, but when doing this in public, nay even craving the exposure, one could have doubts.
8.27.2005 6:02pm
JoetheFarmer (mail):
Tim -

So the video is a fake?
8.27.2005 6:02pm
Mark at Urthshu (www):
People laugh at funerals to relieve tension. NBD.

Looks like Cindy is having a ball with all the atention. Isn't there some psychiatric disorder where people compensate for loss through attention-seeking? I can't recall offhand...

Anyhow, she's in for a big let-down when the hoopla dies off. We'll see some 'whatever happened to?' article in a year or so...
8.27.2005 6:14pm
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
Arnold Harris:

Excellent. And I think she's quite happy with this situation, which she is using to promote her treasonous political agenda.
8.27.2005 7:36pm
M. Scott Eiland (mail):
Yeah, M. Scott, Clinton was totally happy that Ron Brown died

Reading obviously isn't one of your strong points, Timothy. I never said that he was happy Brown died--but the change from laughing to sad face when he saw a camera pointed at him was as fake as a three-dollar bill.
8.27.2005 10:34pm
Tyrone Steels II (mail) (www):
Well let's accuse her of treason and punish her accordingly. It'll be a good test of our resolve, ya dig?
8.27.2005 11:39pm
John Van Laer (mail):
Tyrone:

It is not treason to spit on the sacrifice of your own son, who volunteered to go to the rescue of some ambushed comrades and lost his own life doing so. It is just hellish poor taste.
8.28.2005 12:10am
Timothy Snyder:
M. Scott Fitzgerald Eichmander or whoever the fuck you are - go back to the shallow end of the pool. Join us when you are ready for adult swim.

Ironically, you used Dean's comment on Cindy Sheehan to get in another jab at Bill Clinton. (I'll help you out if you don't understand why your comment is ironic) You guys still can't let him go. The Clintons are still the most talked about political figures on talk radio, and I'm talking about right-wing radio! You can't accept the fact that he spanked George H.W. Bush like he was HIS daddy, AND Bob Dole. He stared down the republican house, was impeached, and still left office with a higher approval rating that Bush only fantasizes about. Oh, but he got a blow job. And if there is one thing conservatives can't stand, it's blow jobs. Why? Because they don't get them anymore.
8.28.2005 12:45am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
I like the style of Mark Noonan.
8.28.2005 1:36am
Timothy Snyder:
Sure, the guy gets on CNN and he's suddenly a star!! Honestly, I was so proud to tell my wife, "hey, I know who that guy is!!!" He was awesome!! He's almost always wrong, like you SMA, but he's still awesome.
8.28.2005 2:00am
M. Scott Eiland (mail):
Gee, Timothy--you go into a foaming, profane fit at the hint of a slight to your beloved Bill, and *I'm* the one not ready to play with grown-ups?

Shouldn't you ask your mom if it's OK to say bad words on the computer?
8.28.2005 2:25am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
I have long thought that Mark Noonan (Catholic), Scott Harris (Protestant), and Arnold Harris (Randian [non-Peikovian]), form a triad of the Right here in Dean's World.
8.28.2005 5:50am
Timothy Snyder:
I don't think that I used a single exclamation point during my post. I was hardly "foaming" as you put it. Not even angry, simply amused how quickly people like yourself always use subjects like this to jab at a REAL President. oh, and yes, my mom hasn't told me how to talk since I joined the Army 15 years ago.
8.28.2005 9:53am
Rosemary Esmay (www):
C'mon Tim, spanked Bob Dole. Poor Bob Dole. You don't honestly think that any Republican believed for a minute that Dole had a chance, do you? He was a throw away candidate like Mondale was.

Leave the old guy alone to enjoy his Viagra.
8.28.2005 11:49am
Mike "Veeshir" Fisher (mail):
M. Scott Fitzgerald Eichmander or whoever the fuck you are - go back to the shallow end of the pool. Join us when you are ready for adult swim.

Looks pretty frothing to me.
8.28.2005 1:45pm
M. Scott Eiland (mail):
I was hardly "foaming" as you put it.

Sure, Tim, sure. Mike Fisher dealt with that point rather well.

You're a Clinton groupie, I get that. I've noted that before--it causes you to say stupid and offensive things, and I've put you in your place for them before. I'll just remember that from now on (and wonder once again about the psyches of those who seem so particularly thrilled about the concept of Bill Clinton getting blowjobs).
8.28.2005 2:26pm
Rosemary Esmay (www):
Hahahahahahhaha!

Good one M.Scott and Mike Fisher!

I've had cappucinos less frothy than Tim was earlier.

Now, Tim, pull Clinton's cock out of your mouth long enough to admit you were a foamy little bitch up there.
8.28.2005 3:28pm
Timothy Snyder:
Hey, you're the one that told me it tasted great! Kinda like a big Mac...only Monica got the "special" sauce.

I admit nothing of the sort. I still think Clinton was the best President so far in my lifetime and Bush Jr. the worst. Hey, until somebody comes along that can knock off the Big Dog, I'm with him. All Bush can do is pee on a shrub and wimper in the corner. (don't ask, I have no idea where or why I wrote that.)
8.28.2005 4:30pm
Casey Tompkins (mail) (www):
Tim, Clinton hardly spanked either of his opponents; in fact, in neither election did he even gain over 50% of the total vote.

So you can, if you are so inclined, say he was a minority president.

You could also point out that Bush 43 scored well over 50% of the total vote in 2004. Now who got spanked? :)

If you are so inclined.

Or ... you could do what I do, and say "who gives a rat's ass, since a win by one point is still a win?"

You're right on two things: there's a definite subset of conservative/Republicans who still obsess about "Billary" the same way many liberal/Democrats obsess about Rove, and Bill Clinton has definitely got Dubya beat in the "blowjobs from young, horny interns" sweepstakes!

Heh.
8.28.2005 8:25pm
Rosemary Esmay (www):
Actually, I said that it tasted great and was less filling.

Dubya the worst in your lifetime?!?!?!?!?!?

Dude we are about the same age and that means you were alive and relatively sentient during the Carter years. Have you no memory of your youth?
8.28.2005 8:45pm
Timothy Snyder:
Carter was better than Bush....I was 10-14 when Carter was president...If a 10-14 year-old cares about politics, we've lost our way. I did hear that a boy's political leanings are determined by the direction his first erection points...I guess mine leaned slightly left back in 1976...(time to quit for now....I think I've stooped lower than the eels on this one.)
8.28.2005 9:51pm
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
Clinton was a likeable scoundrel. Carter was a "saint", as defined by the media, and I dislike such "saints".

Bob Dole had a "square" style, and he was a War hero. Funny that those who, last year, were praising Kerry as a War hero and denouncing Bush as a draft dodger, did not do the same in 1996. One difference between Dole and Kerry is that Dole didn't come home from that War and then start spreading Axis propaganda. In 1984, Walter Mondale also had something of a "square" style, one of the last of the old-style New Dealers.
8.28.2005 10:08pm
Rosemary Esmay (www):
Oh, so you're older than me. I was 8-12 during Carter and I can definitely say I was a Democrat then because my parents were and so I didn't know any better. According to my parents - Carter sucked, I remember my Dad moaning about how much he missed Nixon. And Dad was a UAW Democrat. Carter must've been pretty shitty.
8.28.2005 11:26pm
Timothy Snyder:
Yes, tax and spend democrats hated Carter because he wanted to balance the federal budget. Can you believe how irresponsible an act that is? What hurt Carter more than anything else politically was how much NE liberals in congress didn't like him. His work with Israel and Egypt alone makes his term in office a successful one.
8.29.2005 8:29am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
HAIL TO THE QUEEN OF ALL EVIL....!!!!

Yes, Nixon was much better than Carter, even though I oppose his (or Kissinger's) "detente" with the Communists. Nixon's style. Ford, too.

And the more I think of Reagan, the more I admire him, too. I have now concluded that he was the greatest President of my lifetime. Because of Reagan, Lech Walesa, and Pope John Paul II, Poland and all of Europe (including Russia) is now free from Communism. Reagan withdrew his moral sanction from the Communist tyranny and dared to name it for what it was.

I will give Carter credit for his idea of "zero-based budgeting" which he proposed in his first campaign. If he'd gone through with that, we wouldn't have these deficits today.

I'm older than either Tim the Soldier or the Queen. When I was 10-14, LBJ was President and then Nixon. It was under Nixon's reign that we got to see the Apollo 11 Moon landing (on TV) in 1969.

Tim the Soldier wrote:
"I did hear that a boy's political leanings are determined by the direction his first erection points...I guess mine leaned slightly left back in 1976..."

I was a socialist in junior high school, but my first erection must have leaned more than Slightly To The Right! That was in 6th grade, during the years when I was first discovering Egyptian, Sumerian, etc., mythology.

HAIL TO ISIS, INANNA, THE ETERNAL QUEEN OF HEAVEN....!!!!

Funny about me, I know:
It is with my left hand that I write
-- and yet I am so far to the Right.
8.29.2005 9:35am
Mike (mail):
Carter was the reason I went Republican. He was spectacularly ill-equipped for the office he was elected to, and the American people agreed in 1980.

Clinton, like FDR, was one of the greatest actors never to grace a stage. That is not a put-down, but a compliment. Both could connect to an audience in a way that only the greatest actors could, both could.
8.29.2005 2:00pm
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
Mike:

You summarized it all extremely well.
8.29.2005 3:22pm
KevinB (mail):
Speaking of Mickael Moore and Cindy Sheehan and the ill-informed anti-war crowd, it appears that weapons of mass destruction HAVE been discovered in Iraq.

According to Neal Boortz's website American troops discovered the following:

-500 tons...that's right...TONS...make that 1million pounds of yellow cake uranium. It was found at Saddam's nuclear weapons facility (yup...he had one of those too.)

-1.8 tons of partially enriched uranium found at the same place. You know, the stuff you need to make nukes.

-Hidden centrifuge parts and blueprints.

-Two dozen artillery shells loaded with Sarin and mustard gas.


You can read for yourself on today's Nealz Nuze @ http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html. You can also reach Nealz Nuze throuhg his website http://boortz.com.

Respectfully,

KevinB
8.29.2005 5:22pm
Mike "Veeshir" Fisher (mail):
That info is at least a year old, most of it more than that.
It's just that the MSM doesn't like to cloud their message with facts.
I find myself more and more thinking in terms of violent expletives when I think about the press. They're traitors, pure and simple, who think more of gaining power for their chosen political party than the good of the nation. If we suffer horrific defeat they would like it as long as it gives their party power.
Scum. They're the scum between the toes of scum who don't bathe enough.
8.30.2005 8:18am