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Israeli Government Reaching Out To Moderate Muslims

Dean

Eric notes that the Israeli government is working to build relationships with moderate muslim groups in Europe.

There's a word for that... it's on the tip of my tongue... what is it...? Oh yeah: Smart!

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Arnold Harris (mail):

The word is pitiful. I wish they'd stop acting like traditional whining and cringing Jews and more like the merciless, ruthless and relentless killers and empire builders they must become, in order to survive their next millenium in a shit-hole like the Middle East.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

8.5.2005 4:20pm

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KathyK (mail) (www):

Depends on whether they are really moderate Muslim groups. (There are some - albeit few.)

If they aren't actual moderates (and the Israeli government WOULD know that), I think the word you are looking for is dhimmi.

8.5.2005 8:56pm

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Eric Scheie (www):

Unfortunately, moderate Muslims don't seem to have much chance of being heard in the MSM.

8.6.2005 12:02am

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Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):

Arnold Harris:

The traditional Jew was a fierce warrior. See the Old Testament.

8.6.2005 11:28am

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Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):

Eric Scheie:

That's funny. According to the MSM, all Muslims (except maybe a handful who have already been arrested by the police) are "moderate Muslims". Anyway, I'm sick of the phrase "moderate Muslim". I've never liked it. If Islam is right, then it is extremely right. If it is wrong, then it is extremely wrong. I don't want to see a moderate Muslim any more than I want to see a moderate Christian, a moderate Jew, a moderate atheist, or a moderate Polytheist.

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue."
-Barry Goldwater

In my heart, I know he was right.

8.6.2005 11:34am

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Arnold Harris (mail):

SMA, I know. I should have described everyone since the time of the ancient Jews as the quasi-Jews. I strongly support the right of the Jews to live in all of or any part of the complete land of Israel, from the banks of the Euphrates to the Suez gulf coast. And I also think that anybody who cannot stand up for their own national rights deserves no rights whatsoever.

And by the way, I'm not a moderate apatheist. For that matter, I doubt that any of you have ever read from me a moderate word on anything more innocuous than football teams, which I don't give a damn about.

(Baseball? I've always been a Yankee fan, just like the devil. Especially after repeatedly watching the Cubs trying to play real baseball in Wrigley Field, back when I was a kid.)

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

8.6.2005 4:52pm

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Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):

Arnold Harris:

Extremely good.

8.7.2005 4:05am

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Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):

As to sports, I root for West Coast teams, particularly any team from Oregon. Historically, my favorite baseball player is Ty Cobb, and my favorire football player is Johnny Unitas. The only type of sport that interests me in the extreme, though, are women's sports, e.g., soccer, basketball, or running. I love to think of those women.

8.7.2005 10:58am

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Arnold Harris (mail):

That guy Cobb was almost legendary as a vicious, spiteful loud-mouth and braggart. But hot damn! What a ball-player.

In any case, Cobb was one of the first five baseball players inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in the 1930s, along with Walter Johnson, Babe Ruth, Honus Wager and Christy Mathewson.

The others are probably much better known, but Walter Johnson was a real piece of work. He was thought to be the fastest pitcher in history, whipping a side-arm right-hand pitch that crossed the plate so fast that it sometimes frightened the shit out of opposing batters as it crossed the plate. It's thought that Grantland Rice, a great sports writer of the 1920s, nicknamed him "the Big Train" because his speed of delivery was thought to be faster than the express railway locomotives of his era.

Johnson pitched for the Washington Senators from 1907 until 1927, and was immortal for pitching a 15-inning shutout in the 1920s at the relatively elderly age of 39.

He was already legendary when I was a kid, dutifully studying all these guys as the American heroes we considered them to be.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

8.7.2005 10:30pm

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maor (mail):

Moderate Muslims will lose credibilty among Muslims if they have anything to do with Israel. Sad but true.
I don't think there's an alternative to letting moderate Muslims dominate first, and THEN building ties to Israel.

8.8.2005 11:01am