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Rhode Island May Pass Medical Marijuana

It looks like the Rhode Island legislature may have the common sense and decency to approve medical marijuana use, overriding the governor's veto.

Let's hope so. Let the Feds have to contend with a growing number of states thumbing their noses at them--and embracing common sense and decency.

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Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
Good! I say to the federal executive branch, and to its passivist judiciary: Bring it on! Send in your jack-booted thugs to arrest cancer patients. Be sure to bring your Rottweilers and fire hoses, too.
6.30.2005 1:00pm
Eric R. Ashley (mail) (www):
What is the arguement against med marijuana, for it seems fairly reasonable to me to allow it?
6.30.2005 1:35pm
McKiernan:
San Francisco has over 40 medical marijuana pot clubs. It's sister city across the bay in Oakland has half the poplulation and only 4 pot clubs. SF has more pot clubs than it has McDonalds and Burger King combined. Yet, SF the city of progress is having a few problems. Seems the some on the Board of Supervisors want to start shutting them down.

Read this in today's S.F.Chronicle:

"Pointing up just how controversial the issue has become, a San Francisco resident who says she's a medical marijuana backer Tuesday obtained a temporary restraining order from a San Francisco Superior Court judge forcing the closure of a pot club on Howard Street that neighbors considered to be a nuisance. Last week, federal authorities raided three clubs accused of participating in a money laundering scheme."

"Currently, there are more than 40 pot clubs that have cropped up in San Francisco since passage of a 1996 state measure permitting marijuana use for medical purposes -- with 7,000 registered medical marijuana patients in the city. But police say the system is widely abused, with drug dealers and gang members buying at the clubs and putting more pot on the streets than ever before."
6.30.2005 3:07pm
Dean Esmay:
McKiernan: oh, my heart bleeds. And by the way, the cops quoted in this story are liars. They have no way at all of knowing that there's "more pot on the streets than ever before." As with many things involving this issue, the reactionary side generally just makes its data up. It's like the idiots who to this day continually say that our society is more violent than ever before, despite an utter lack of any supporting data.

If the city wants to crack down on non-medical use they're free to do so. They can start cracking down hard on cannabis clubs or physicians who abuse the system any time they want. Those who claim that just having the medical pot available creates criminal activity make absolutely no more sense than those who claim that just having medical morphine available, or medical codeine available, creates the criminal market for narcotics.
6.30.2005 4:16pm
Scott Kirwin (mail) (www):
Dunno if how this relates to the debate or not:

The Wife is on an ER rotation. Last night on the Graveyard shift she had 4 men come in last night complaining of Sickle Cell Anemia pain. She ordered blood work and did a H&P, and based on the results told the Attending that they were "Seekers" - patients looking for drugs.

Her Attending said that she had to "question her assumptions" and make an extra effort not to let biases not cloud her judgement. So he prescribed all 4 of them dilauden.

Minutes later one was standing on his head, another was jumping up and down on a bed, and another had his finger so far up his nose that it looked like he was biopsying his brain.

I guess this just goes to show that we don't ban drugs like the opioids for patients, so why can't we do the same for THC?
6.30.2005 5:19pm
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
Eric R. Ashley asked:
"What is the arguement against med marijuana, for it seems fairly reasonable to me to allow it?"

The argument seems to be that since long-haired, un-kempt, un-patriotic hippies, who played their music too loud, smoked marijuana in the late 1960s and early 1970s, then therefore it is intrinsically evil and nobody should ever use it ever again for any purpose.
6.30.2005 10:31pm
McKiernan:
I don't think evil gets intrinsic until one chooses it. The problemo here is that it is a street drug which ergo carries a lot of social and anti--social baggage. We gets the Feds, the ATF, the DEA, etc... Then the local crime guys show up at the fatal auto collisions and the drunk shoot-outs and the trauma rooms. And the mom's and the dads get upset.

Then, everytime another legalization process occurs, the state governments have to implement a bazillion pesos, euros, dollares etc from the wallets of the taxi drivers and the taxpayers.


The last time I saw a guy on weed at an office party, he w-a-s v-e-r-y s-o-c-i-a-l-a-b-le. He s-p-o-k-e v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-ly. But he w-a-s- a-b-l-e t-o d-r-i-ve h-o-m-e.

I'm not against medical marijuana, but it seems there is a difficulty with the medical part as weeds aren't m_e_d_i_c_i_n_e.

The pot clubs aren't pharmacies, nor clinics nor medical providers. They aren't under the supervision of anyone except the plant growers and sellers and a piece of paper showing pot club membership.

There seems to be a disconnect in the medical provider area.
6.30.2005 11:47pm
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
I can respect Right-Wing arguments against legalizing marijuana, but this particular Left-Wing argument just BUGS THE HELL OUT OF ME. Despicable.
7.1.2005 1:31pm