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Editorial Bullying in the Carnival of the Skeptics

The latest Skeptic's Circle is available at Pharyngula. Sadly, Professor Myers allows his politics to interfere with both his objectivity and his decency in the case of Trudy Schuett's article. Schuett was clearly writing in response to a piece in a previous Skeptic's Circle--a piece that was full of straw men and false allegations. She showed clearly and carefully how those claims were false, with references -- and, as a professional working in the field, wrote of her experiences dealing with people who put their politics ahead of peer-reviewed research, responsible social science, or simple human decency.

I guess sometimes people just can't be fair or honest when their beliefs are challenged -- including Professor Myers.

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Mike "Veeshir" Fisher (mail):
It's pretty funny that he labels as ironic one of the things in that post that I've seen as true.
Every time I've seen a "woman's advocate" on TV they've related some bogus claim. Like the "Women get beaten on Super Bowl Sunday more than any other day" canard.
5.13.2005 7:47am
Dean Esmay:
Yeah, the "Superbowl Sunday" myth makes the rounds every year--and it doesn't seem to matter how many times it gets punctured only to rise again the next year.
5.13.2005 7:53am
maggie may - labrat:
I have to admit that I'm not impressed with these so-called "skeptics". What's in this latest round of links but an upholding of mainstream thought and the demonization of those who dare to question it? Did I miss something?
5.13.2005 10:35am
Casey Tompkins (mail) (www):
I was struck by the mission statement that "we praise science and reason, and smirk and mock the gullible and credulous." (emphasis added)

Further down you'll find this "The hottest topics this time around are quackery, creationism, religion, and pseudoscience." (emphasis added)

In other words, these geniuses have already decided (for the rest of humanity) that they hold the final secrets of the universe, and are completely qualified to genericall term religion on the same level as quackery and pseudoscience.

Hell, I'm agnostic, and even I find that sort of pompous self-importance insulting.

I've used this quote before: "a true skeptic refuses to believe or deny without proof." (H. Beam Piper) When you add to that the fact that the fundamental ideas behind any major religion are not falsifiable, then a true skeptic would not pass judgement on their ultimate truth or falsity, per se. Specific contemporary claims (such as a statue weeping blood) are more addressable.

That's why I stopped subscribing to The Skeptical Inquirer, an otherwise excellent publication. They started veering away from proper topics such as current claims about ESP, astrology, traditional Chinese medicine, and alien abuductions to assaults on religion in general; metaphorically and philosophically an entirely different kettle of fish. Apparently (for a modern "skeptic") belief in God marks one as a mindless, credulous fool.

These people aren't skeptics; they're rationalist/materialists disguised as skeptics.

Whew. I feel better now. :)
5.13.2005 11:49am
Phelps (www):
I came to the same conclusion, CT, and that is why I started calling this type Skeptians. They aren't really critical thinkers; they simply have a different dogma than the other -ians of the world.
5.13.2005 12:35pm
Dean Esmay:
I found myself really quite disappointed, being an atheist/materialist/rationalist and very much a skeptic myself. I made the mistake in trying to engage a couple of them on the subject of the plans to set aside 2,000 acres of the most barren, desolate portions of the far northern plain slope of ANWR for very limited oil development, and was met with pseudoscientific baloney, bloviating, and desperate attempts to change the subject in response. Shockingly credulous people, these so-called "skeptics."
5.13.2005 3:41pm
Jeff Licquia (mail) (www):
Skepticism is always something most properly given, according to some, and least properly received. One shudders to think about the fate of skepticism if "skeptics" should ever discover the Golden Rule.

Oh, wait; maybe they have.
5.13.2005 6:45pm