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Akbar Sentenced to Death

Sgt. Hasan Akbar, who set off a grenade in order to kill his fellow soldiers, has been sentenced to death.

I am not generally a big death penalty supporter. I've got issues with it. But in a case like this? I have no pity.

None.

(Thanks for the tip, Kevin.)

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Cybrludite (mail) (www):
...for we're hangin' Danny Deever Hassan Akbar in the mornin'!
4.29.2005 6:06am
Arnold Harris (mail):
We're doing no such thing. The last soldier executed by the US Army was in 1961. My guess it that this guy will just rot the rest of his days away in some military prison. Because the US government won't have the balls to execute a soldier who is simultaneously black and muslim. Regardless of the viciousness of his crime.

All things considered, and with the problems that have arisen with more than one muslim member of the US armed forces in Iraq, why do we let such people serve in the military to begin with? They apparently undergo psychological pressures which cause to them feel like traitors for serving in a predominantly christian army against their fellow muslims.

Maybe the only way to fight them properly is to hire one gang of arab muslim killers to slaughter whichever other gang of arab muslim killers (or Paks, Iranians, whatever) whom we have targeted.

Maybe too the time has come to stop all these foolish efforts to domesticate this bunch, like feral cats for whom we feel sorry.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
4.29.2005 3:11pm
Final Historian (mail) (www):
Am I the only person who feels dirty from reading the above?
4.29.2005 4:16pm
KathyK (mail) (www):
No.

But sometimes it is necessary to get your hands dirty. Ask any gardener.
4.29.2005 10:10pm
Dave (mail) (www):
I'd say give the asshole a firing squad, but that would be a waste of good bullets.

Hang him high and burn the rope, perhaps?
4.29.2005 11:12pm
Timothy Snyder:
Arnold needs to watch a little more PBS Kids and less "Kill'em All, Let God Sort'em Out" specials on the Rage Channel.

WWRD? (What would Rambo Do?) seems inappropriate in this case, but as an Army Soldier AND an opponent of the death penalty 99.9% of the time, I've got to say, ready, aim, fire.
4.29.2005 11:56pm
Arnold Harris (mail):
Tim,

I've lived through too many incidents of treachery from those people. Therefore, I do not trust them. Because one of my key operative principles is "fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me."

And I too was a soldier in the US Army, more than 50 years ago.

Note that I use our household television set mainly to play DVDs of feature films. I was not aware there even is a rage channel. The only cable TV I get to see is on a small Samsung monitor mounted in front of one of the treadmills at the local fitness center.

Whether what I have to say about these matters sounds politically correct, I could not care less. I think we all have a duty to protect this country and our military from infiltration by enemies as defined by their culture and, if necessary, by their religious notions. Even if those notions are significant to them. Especially if those notions are significant to them.

Because there are some enemies you cannot really deal with, except to kill or be killed. Or make them keep their distance.

And no, I am not interested in getting vengeance on one man who murdered two of his fellow soldiers. I am interested in making sure nobody like that man is ever put into a position of trust ever again by our country, enabling them to kill other Americans.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
4.30.2005 12:11am
Timothy Snyder:
"Whether what I have to say about these matters sounds politically correct, I could not care less."

NO!! Say it isn't so!!!

Seriously, the criminal actions of one or even a few Soldiers, in no way says to me that Muslim Americans can't be loyal to our country and military. How many incidents of fratricide were committed by protestant, catholic, or atheist Soldiers? Probably most of them. While I respect the boldness of your convictions, you're waaaaay off on this one.
4.30.2005 12:27am
Casey Tompkins (mail) (www):
Tim, I believe Arnold was referring to Islamists, not Muslims.

Or if you don't like Islamist, try Islamofascist, which I prefer.
5.1.2005 1:36am
Timothy Snyder:
Oh, ok, in that case, nevermind....
5.1.2005 12:55pm
Arnold Harris (mail):
Casey is right. There are all kinds of islamic people, including all but totally innocuous members of the Bah'ai sect that is persecuted by the islamofascisti, and the traditional Sufi followers of places such as Kashmir.

There have been extended periods in history when islamic Arabs, Persians, Turks and others were the leading nations among the various civilizations. In those times, they frequently served as protectors of freedom of religion, not as persecutors as they frequently do these days.

The problem in our present day world is that madrasas (religious schools) and mosques all across the islamic countries are preaching systematic hatred not only of Christians, Jews, Buddhists and other non-islamic faiths, but also of versions of islam which the islamofascisti seek to obliterate. Some of them come here and end up living out lives as ticking time-bombs, waiting for an opportunity to kill for their version of islam.

Because of the clear and present danger such people obviously represent to us, we must balance our traditional attitudes in which each individuals religious and cultural attachments are his or her own private business, with the need to protect our country, citizens, public buildings, and military forces from attacks by murderous sleepers whose purpose in living is to hurt the rest of us.

This means careful screening for purposes of determining what kind of islam we are talking about, when one of its practitioners is put in a position where the lives of other Americans, including his fellow soldiers, depend absolutely on his loyalty and intentions.

Generally speaking, I do not trust anyone whose private religious or cultural beliefs lead him or her to nurse a destructive grudge against the rest of us in this fundamentally secular society. And unless problems that arise from these grudges either are minimalized or eradicated from our culture, the great commonwealth of the american nation -- the USA -- probably will have a disintegrative future. Which, in my judgement, would be the most terrible event in history.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
5.1.2005 2:46pm