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Raising Boys - Time For A Change?

When did medicating boys become popular and why aren't more people questioning this practice?

I'm the parent of a boy, and I've noted that several of his friends are on various meds "to help him focus", "it's better for his grades" and "the teacher says he couldn't sit still in class". Meanwhile there is debate about ending recess in schools for various reasons, including improving test scores, saving money (teachers are demanding to be paid to supervise recess) and even protection (it's easier to keep kids away from predators in a building).

I hate to tell those of you who believe in the complete equality of the sexes, but boys are not girls. They are absolute bundles of energy. "Snips, snails and puppy-dog tails" goes the saying and one thing that "puppy-dog tails" never do is sit still. Boys must move. They have evolved for that very purpose, and forcing them to sit in one place for a long period of time isn't just wrong - it's unethical and sexual discrimination of the highest order.

I believe that it is time to consider a whole new way of teaching boys. Boys can focus to a degree that is amazing to adults. Just ask one about his Pokemon or Yu-gi-oh strategy and be prepared for a detailed analysis of the game that would make a Pentagon planner feel like a generalist. However they can do so only between periods of activity. Think of it as teaching science, math and English in a gymnasium with lectures punctuated by games of Dodgeball and Hoops. Instead of relegating PE to 40 mins a week (as is the case at my kid's school) regular classes would be integrated into PE to the point where a separate PE class would be unnecessary.

Medicating boys is the easy solution, but it makes as much sense as pumping girls full of speed and steroids to perform better at sports. No one is calling for that, and if anyone did there would be charges of child abuse levelled - and rightly so. Yet millions of boys are on medication today and people are comfortable with this.

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JDS (mail):
Amen Scott. I'm not sure if I had ADHD or not as a child, but I do know that I spent most of my elementary school years staring at the clock waiting for recess or gym (or to go home). And us boys would get in trouble repeatedly during recess for playing games like "King of the Mountain" on the piles of plowed snow. But we kept doing it anyway. I don't think we were all in need of medication.

The current trend of drugging up boys is, to me at least, a very simplistic solution to a non-existent problem. I'm becoming increasingly sympathetic to the idea of same-sex education for the elementary school years. Classrooms for boys shouldn't just have a bunch of desks facing a chalkboard.
4.25.2005 11:01am
Rhianna (aka rmschoon) (mail) (www):
I have 3 girls, so on the medicating boys front I don't know. But cutting recess? We had recess until 8th grade when I was a kid...I know that in about 13 years kids haven't outgrown the need to run and play. (And what the hell is up with teachers thinking playground duty is 'extra' or seperate from their standard pay package?)

There is something seriously wrong in the US education system and medicating children to make them more docile, and putting them in private school won't fix it.
4.25.2005 11:02am
Rosemary Esmay (www):
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!

I have two boys and after I had the first one, it was obvious that boys are not girls and the penis wasn't the give away.

Litle boys are endless bundles of energy. Jake jogs in place when he plays video games. Why? Because he wants to and he needs to do it. When Jake started Kindergarten, his well meaning but clueless teacher told me that Jake had ADHD. I told her that her diagnosis was bull. It was her first year teaching that grade and she had no children of her own. Apparantly she told the mothers of 7 other children the same thing. The common link in her "diagnosis"? They were ALL BOYS.

Boys need to run, they need it more than girls. They don't need medicine, they need recess.
4.25.2005 11:13am
Farmer Joe (mail) (www):
And one wonders if keeping boys seated when they need to be running around might be contributing to the obesity "epidemic".
4.25.2005 11:16am
Ronin (mail):
It seems that in the quest for a politically correct utopia, the NEA and others such 'experts" have decided that the natural behavior of healthy boys is a "syndrome" of some kind, and that boys exhibiting such "syndromes" need to be medicated to the gills, so that they all behave alike, and display the behavior that the NEA and other feminist academics determine is appropriate. Which is not to say that things like ADHD does not exist - my problem is that boys are being "diagnosed" with these "syndromes" at the drop of a hat!!!!
4.25.2005 11:17am
Rhianna (aka rmschoon) (mail) (www):
I wouldn't say boys need recess more than girls. Like I said, I don't have boys, but my girls need time to run and play too. I doubt the teacher is trying to force boys to do something the girls aren't required to do. I think it's just being lazy the whole way around.

While same-sex education is an interesting discussion, I think it would fail worse than co-ed. Boys need to play with girls. They need to have multiple interaction levels, just like girls do.

I was an extremely active child, and I was never 'diagnosed' by a teacher as ADHD or ADD or whatever the catchphrase for today is. My teachers didn't like me being so active, they called me 'hyper' and recommended Ritalin (hello, got a license from Cracker Jack to practice medicine??). My family never bought into the 'drug her up' line. I think it comes down to teachers not wanting to be responsible for a generation of children. They want drones (even the DODDS teachers do).

As much as I detest having my kids running and screaming in the house, they're KIDS! That's what they do! I don't see why a teacher can't deal with it, that's what they're trained for, that's what their job is.
4.25.2005 11:19am
JDS (mail):
I admit I'm not entirely sold on same-sex education, since some girls are more active, and some boys are more content to sit still in a classroom. And I don't think keeping them completely segregated, such as in different schools, would be a good idea. But perhaps creating different classes for those children who are more active based on completing projects that allow the students more autonomy. Of course, some subjects are more suited to this than others. It's no surprise to me, despite what Larry Summers' critics might say, that boys are more interested in fields like science which involves more physical activity than, say, English.

Anyway, I'm not sure what the solution is, but I'm certain it's not drugging up half the population to make them more compliant.
4.25.2005 11:45am
Rosemary Esmay (www):
I wouldn't say boys need recess more than girls.

I think I wasn't clear. I didn't mean that girls need recess less than boys, I think that boys need more actual run time. While girls can be content playing quietly with dolls, boys can't. I guess what I was trying to say that if a girl (and I was "hyper" too) needs 30 minutes to recess during the day, a boy might need 35. Slightly more actual time to burn off the energy.
4.25.2005 12:03pm
Rosemary Esmay (www):
As kids get older they naturally "settle" down. Jake isn't as bouncy at 7 as he was at 4 or 5.
4.25.2005 12:04pm
Rosemary Esmay (www):
As much as I detest having my kids running and screaming in the house, they're KIDS! That's what they do! I don't see why a teacher can't deal with it, that's what they're trained for, that's what their job is.

Exactly. Right on, Mama!
4.25.2005 12:05pm
Dishman (mail):
If they're not properly docile, medicate them until they are. They must be taught to behave in the manner The State has chosen for them. There is no need for these other activities and "expressions of individualism". They will learn to accept and even rely upon their medications. They will love their place within The State.

/Orwell off
4.25.2005 12:21pm
maryatexitzero (mail):
Boys are more willing to actively express their annoyance and boredom, but if my experience is any indication, girls are just as bored. But, as usual, girls are too nice to say anything, so we quietly daydream, and sit, as the teacher drones on, and on, and on..

Girls aren't loud or antsy, but they're not learning much either. Like boys, they're kids, and they also learn more from actively engaging with the world, not sitting in little chair all day, watching the clock.

Cutting back on recess time is the worst idea I've ever heard. All kids want to be more active, they all want to feel like they're making a contribution to the world. Our current system doesn't engage kid's minds, it deadens them. Boys are just more open about expressing their disapproval.
4.25.2005 12:31pm
Hank Barnes (mail):
Good post, Kirwan

I think some of the pharmaceutical companies and medical/science/educator weenies are stuck on that old Huey Lewis Song ..."I Want a New Drug."

Ritalin, which is essentially pharmaceutical cocaine, is totally unecessary. Drugging boys, for God's sake, is purely a function of the authoritarian Nanny-state gone bonkers.

Hell, when I was a boy, here was my daily itinerary: (1) Play tackle football, (2) fistfights/wrestling matches, (3) Chase girls, (4) Be a smart aleck in class, (5) Steal candy from store-owners, (6) run a lot through town causing general mischief.

Now, we got MTV, i-pods, Ritalin, child psychologists, time-outs, Barney, bicycle helmets, and all this other wimpy jive.

What happened?:)

Hank Barnes
4.25.2005 1:03pm
Trudy W. Schuett (mail) (www):
This book is important reading for anybody concerned about today's treatment of boys.
If I had a school-age boy right now, I would not, under any circumstances, send him to public school. Part of the drugging problem lies in the fact that teachers are often allowed to diagnose ADD, despite their lack of training or qualifications to do so.
Another part lies in some of the teachers themselves. There are only two things you can do with a degree in women's studies -- run a battered women's shelter or teach, so now we're seeing a number of these otherwise uneducated women in both fields.
4.25.2005 1:59pm
Tom Hawkson:
I was at a home school conference Saturday and listened to a talk on ADD, ADHD, etc. Two amazing ideas from new research presented:

1) Ritalin and similar drugs lower IQ.
2) ADD and ADHD always come with associated problems such as allergies, vision, hearing, anxiety and even Tourettes. If you treat these problems, the ADD and ADHD goes away.

Yours,
Tom Hawkson, aka Wince
4.25.2005 2:37pm
dgb (mail) (www):
We have been trying to change boyish behavior for decades now. I have an ex-sister-in-law who wished to raise her boys to be "non-violent" so she forbade any type of play (or real) weapon in her house. However, without any prompting from the older males in the family the boys began picking up sticks outside and yelling "bang" at each other. She was horrified. I was amused.
4.25.2005 3:15pm
B. Durbin (www):
Go ahead and ban things inside, if you must— my parents did not allow throwing things inside, or screaming— but then LET THE KIDS OUTSIDE!

And one more thing: my mother always said, "If they're not dirty, they didn't have fun." Remember that kids is kids. Dirt is not your enemy.
4.25.2005 3:43pm
Michelle Dulak Thomson (mail):
dgb,

The best commentary ever on that phenomenon: Saki's "The Toys of Peace." Dr. Weevil has a copy up at

http://www.doctorweevil.org/saki/toys.html

It's magnificent.
4.25.2005 4:02pm
Rhianna (aka rmschoon) (mail) (www):
Rose, thanks for the clarification. My bad, I misunderstood. :)

JDS has a idea I can get behind. We already have 'gifted and talented' classes for those with mental ages for in excess of their peers. I don't see why we can't tailor the rest of school to the activity level of the child. There would of course have to be minimum standards, but if a kid wants or needs more excersize or 'free time' than that, where is the harm? I think making school serve the children better in education will only improve their experiance, and in the process up test scores (which I hate standardized testing anyway...).

I have a deep and abiding respect for teachers. I was raised in a family of them, but today's teachers seem more content to go in, get their paycheck and leave with as little educating and interacting with the children as possible. (This is by no means all teachers, but the great ones, or even the good ones are getting fewer and farther between.) That's a diservice to society of today, the children and the world of tomorrow.

The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world as they say...in this case it seems to be the hand that pushes the needle... :(
4.25.2005 4:06pm
Christiana (mail) (www):
I think it's unfortunately a really complicated problem, and I don't really know what we can do to fix the public schools. I don't have any kids myself, but if and when I do, I'm going to really work to put them in private schools, I think.

On the ADD note though, it is actually possible to get a negative diagnosis. The craze really started as I was in middle school, and as I frequently had a hard time concentrating in class, the teacher recommended that I be given Ritalin. My mom was open-minded, but not willing to take the teacher's word for it, so I went to a specialist who evaluated me and said that I did not have ADD, but that I was just bored because my classwork was not sufficiently stimulating. I tell you what, that diagnosis was not what the teacher wanted to hear.
4.25.2005 5:20pm
Scott Kirwin (mail) (www):
It's always gratifying to come home from work and find good comments awaiting you. I knew you all would appreciate this. Dean's World rocks...

And the same might be true with girls - it's just that they don't seem to be as medicated as often as boys. Kids need to play - and the educational system seems to have forgotten this.
4.25.2005 6:05pm
Bill:
Thanks to foolish parents and shameless lawyers, it's a lot harder for teachers to maintain order in the classroom than it used to be. I can understand the temptation to drug kids into submission. In my Catholic K-12 experience, it was the occasionally spoken threat of expulsion and disgrace that kept the unruly in check. In thirteen years, I saw only one student expelled.

Things are different now.
4.25.2005 7:41pm
Bill:
Hit the button too soon.

Your message is on target. School ought to be made a lot more suitable for boys.
4.25.2005 7:43pm
maggie may - labrat:
That's an interesting angle Bill, who has a "disorder", the kids or the adults who can't deal with them without "drugging them into submission"?
4.25.2005 9:37pm
jane m:
Legally there are so many restrictions placed on school systems that render teachers helpless in the face of maintaining order in the classroom. You can't teach much to kids who are running around the room and tipping over their desks. And you certainly can't lay a hand on 'em either. Not that I advocate corporal punishment. I went to school in the 50s. I hate to talk about the "good ole days" but in those days, nobody but nobody talked back to the teacher let alone refused to sit down in their chair. It was unthinkable. In my school nobody ever got paddled EXCEPT at home for misbehaving. But the teacher had complete control over the class room.

The epidemic of so-called ADD or ADHD kids IMO is a cause and effect of the inability of public schools to legally mete out meaningful discipline at school. If a kid spits on another student, he's classified as a special needs student who cannot be expelled for any reason. I know some teachers and I'm not exaggerating. There isn't enough money in the world to pay me to be a public school teacher in this society. So schools see unruly children as in need of medication I guess because that is about their only weapon to control the uncontrollable ones. It's bullshit to be sure but fortunately Ritalin can only be prescribed by a REAL doctor so somebody diagnosises the ones that get it. Whether THEY know what their are doing is open to debate for sure.

A true diagnosis involves brain cat scan or MRI and evaluation of brain chemistry or so I'm told by a nurse friend who had an true ADHD kid of her ownand who was really helped by correct diagnosis and treatment which is MUCH more than just ritalin and requires parental involvement with behavior modification and other important consistent disciplinary methods to be effectiveb (as well as cooperation from the school).
4.26.2005 12:39am
Ken Hall (www):
My sons will attend public schools until someone tries to render an unqualified diagnosis, at which point I'll pull them out and home-school them.
4.26.2005 1:42pm