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Looting?

Chris Hitchens says the NY Times has to get its story straight, were there WMD in Iraq? and can you really call a systematic attempt that includes heavy machinery "looting"?

My first question is this: How can it be that, on every page of every other edition for months now, the New York Times has been stating categorically that Iraq harbored no weapons of mass destruction? And there can hardly be a comedy-club third-rater or MoveOn.org activist in the entire country who hasn't stated with sarcastic certainty that the whole WMD fuss was a way of lying the American people into war. So now what? Maybe we should have taken Saddam's propaganda seriously, when his newspaper proudly described Iraq's physicists as "our nuclear mujahideen."

My second question is: What's all this about "looting"? The word is used throughout the long report, but here's what it's used to describe. "In four weeks from mid-April to mid-May of 2003 … teams with flatbed trucks and other heavy equipment moved systematically from site to site. … 'The first wave came for the machines,' Dr Araji said. 'The second wave, cables and cranes.' " Perhaps hedging the bet, the Times authors at this point refer to "organized looting."

Ah, "orginized looting," well that clears it up, doesn't it?

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cherrick (mail):
"were" not "where" as in "were there WMD in Iraq".
3.16.2005 2:19pm
Moe (mail) (www):
True.
Thanks, I've fixed it
3.16.2005 2:31pm
AnthonyL (mail):
Also, orginized should be organized :-)
3.16.2005 3:19pm
John Anderson (mail):
Just a bunch of packrats and crows picking up shiny stuff.
3.16.2005 4:54pm
M. Scott Eiland (mail):
"Organized looting," huh? Sounds like the Iraqis have an Internal Revenue Service.
3.16.2005 6:19pm
TLHeart:
How can they have it both ways? First there are NO WMD's, and now they were looted during the early parts of the war. Which is it? or do they just publish whatever is negative towards the Bush administration at the present time?

Does the public have such short memories they actually think they can get away with this?

And just maybe Debka file got it right when they said that truck loads of WMD and the equipment used to manufacture them was hauled off to Syria and Lebanon.
3.16.2005 7:30pm
Dean Esmay (www):
Now that the elections are over, the witch hunt aspect of this can be over and we can start being honest in our investigation of why they weren't found. "Lies all lies" is nonsense. It would be nice if we could put real effort into getting a real answer.

I've long suspected that Saddam's people lied to him and some of what he thought he had didn't exist, while some others were hidden and lost in the desert sands (we uncovered an entire fighter jet buried like that, and that was entirely on accident since a tailfin was sticking out of the sand), and yes, some got moved out of the country, possibly to Syria, Lebanon... and/or Russia.

I'd like to know this answer. If we can get the "liar liar liar liar!" dinks to just shut up, perhaps we can actually have some hope of finding the truth.
3.17.2005 6:00pm