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Blood money

Italy held a state funeral for Nicola Calipari, who was allegedly shot by U.S. forces while riding past a checkpoint with recently freed journalist Giuliana Sgrena.

It sounds like our soldiers may have screwed up at the checkpoint. Hopefully, a full investigation will tell us what happened.

Of course, there is a difference between an accident and a deliberate act. From The Australian:

Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera reported yesterday that the Italian Government had paid a ransom of between E6-8million ($10-13.4million) to buy Sgrena's freedom.
According to the Guardian:
The Italian government has virtually admitted a ransom was paid, with the agriculture minister in Silvio Berlusconi's rightwing government, Giovanni Alemanno, saying it was "very likely".

He added it was "generally preferable to pay a financial price than the price of a human life or a political price consisting of [submitting to] blackmail by pulling out troops".

If true, then the Italian government is deliberately financing terrorism.

These terrorist/'insurgent' organizations have been responsible for the murders of hundreds of innocent Iraqis. They slaughtered 11 Iraqis today, all civilians, mostly students.

If ransom was paid, then Giuliana and the Italian government are responsible for more of this.

I wonder why Giuliana is trying to distract the world’s attention with unsubstantiated allegations?

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Sandi (www):
"It sounds like our soldiers may have screwed up at the checkpoint. Hopefully, a full investigation will tell us what happened."

Mary, if it is true that the soldiers waved their arm, shouted and flashed lights and the car didn't stop, then "our soldiers did not screw up." Period.

It is sad that it happened, but they had no other choice. A car speeding towards a checkpoint and not responding to hails is going to (and should) be shot at and stopped by what ever means it takes.
3.7.2005 12:26pm
Scott Kirwin (mail) (www):
I still can't figure out how the intelligence agent was shot in the temple and still managed to "breath his last" on Giuliana's neck. To put it bluntly, a shot to the temple sounds like murder with a small calibre gun.

This whole story - a Communist reporter being abducted, her pleas for Italian troop withdrawal that agree with her own politics, the convenient death of an Italian secret service agent, the operatic manner in which this whole charade played out...

It stinks on ice. We are not getting the whole truth.

I don't believe Sgrena was kidnapped, and I am coming to believe that Calipari was murdered before the race to the checkpoint after he learned the truth.
3.7.2005 12:42pm
maryatexitzero (mail):
Our soldiers may have screwed up - or they may not have. Hopefully, a full investigation will include:

- The caliber/type of bullet that killed Calipari

- Calipari's time of death

- whether this really was a kidnapping.

In the meantime, there seems to be proof that the Italian government gave millions of dollars to an "insurgent" group. I assume financial support of terrorism is against the law in Iraq. If the Italian government doesn't want to discuss the matter with us, we should let them (and Giuliana) talk to the Iraqi government and to the families that have been victimized by terrorism.
3.7.2005 1:04pm
Casey Tompkins (mail) (www):
Who uses Reporters Without Borders as a reliable source, anyway?

And just to stir in some fun, Sgrena's own words
The car kept on the road, going under an underpass full of puddles and almost losing control to avoid them. We all incredibly laughed. It was liberating. Losing control of the car in a street full of water in Baghdad and maybe wind up in a bad car accident after all I had been through
(emphasis added)

Now, I know Italians are supposed to be bad drivers, but how can you "almost [lose] control" unless you are driving too fast?

Not to mention this woman has already been quoted that she believes she was "target" (that word again!) by the US military; and yes I know she toned the accusation down later. Still, she said it. Thanks, Mr. Jordan!

And -while I'm thinking about it- what about her quote that the car faced a hail of "300 to 400 bullets." Now, speaking to those who know nothing about the US military, they don't cut loose with fully automatic fire at the drop of a hat. In fact, the opposite is true: they're trained to use carefully-aimed, single-shot fire; and they're damned good at it. They didn't (and wouldn't) need such a fulisade to stop the car. Or to assassinate Ms. Sgrena, if that's what they really wanted.

I have to call "bullshit" on this one. It's just another attempt to spread the "gun-happy" US soldier myth around.

A closing aside: several blogs (LGF and Captians Quarters, for example) have put up a photo of a damaged (but very NON-bullet-ridden) car which was allegedly the vehicle in question. It turns out this was a stock photo, and the blogs in question made a point of updating, and correcting their blog posts.

As usual, the bloggers work harder at accuracy than the "professionals." But I have to ask: where are the photos of the real car? Hmmm....
3.7.2005 1:29pm
Rhianna (aka rmschoon) (mail) (www):
Hang on, just in via Sky news in the UK...her driver was an "Italian Spy". I'm working on corroboration...
3.7.2005 5:37pm
Rhianna (aka rmschoon) (mail) (www):
Okay, all I'm getting from Military.com is that he was an 'agent', but no mention of driving.

In a not suprising, but still annoying, feat of logic the BBC is reporting the Italian Communist's version of events as unquestioned truth, without any shread of proof. All the while slyly (at least for the BBC) showing it's anti-US bias.

CNN has more on Calipari, and some back-story in general. Don't miss the quote of the day, that totally blows what little credibility this idiot had away:
On Saturday, the left-leaning Il Manifesto accused U.S. forces of "assassinating" Calipari.



How any human on the planet, especially one that makes a habit of using US soldier's supposed agression as a basis for their bias, can report they were 'intentionally targeted' but lived is beyond me. But, I guess in the realms of lala land one doesn't have to make sense. Grasping at straws seems to be this woman's strong suit, pity they don't all break and bury her.
3.7.2005 5:50pm
Van Helsing (mail) (www):
There are obvious reasons why it's against US policy to pay ransom to kidnappers. Even assuming that this noxious kook Sgrena was really kidnapped, the whole thing stinks. If Italy can't agree not to pay ransom to kidnappers, it should keep its citizens out of Iraq.
3.7.2005 8:27pm
maor (mail):
Permit me a bitter, cynical laugh regarding the claim that the US is against paying ransom to terrorists.

Sorry, nothing personal.
3.8.2005 5:44am
maryatexitzero (mail):
If people make a mistake in the past, should they learn from that mistake and subsequently change their behavior?

Or should they continue to make the same mistake? At present,the US government has a policy of not sponsoring and paying for terrorism.

The Iraqi government, and the Iraqi people also prohibit the support of terrorism (see Dean's post above)

The Italian government has just paid for an awful lot of terrorism. The attention paid to the Sgrena incident is an obvious attempt to distract us from that fact. There should be a thorough investigation into both the Sgrena incident AND the Italian financial support of terror.
3.8.2005 9:46am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
I support our soldiers 100% and I do not believe any Communist propaganda.
3.8.2005 11:03am
jane m:
The ransom paid for this woman's release only insures that more Italians will be kidnapped. Easy money for poverty stricken terrorists, no?
The Italians better rethink this and make a very loud announcement when they change their policy. Otherwise, those terrorists will catch on that Italians pay big money.
3.8.2005 10:55pm