The Truth About Fahrenheit 9/11
Dean
Anyone who has researched Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 9/11 knows that it is full of horrible lies and distortions.
You don't really have to see the film to know that this is true. Why? Because enough responsible people from all sides of the political spectrum--Democrats, Republicans, independents, George Bush fans, George Bush critics, Iraq war advocates, Iraq war detractors--have documented, repeatedly and in great detail, just how dishonest this film is, and how much it uses the techniques of the great Stalinist and Nazi propagandists. If you've researched this film, you realize it's not much different from the forgeries known as The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion.
However, if you really feel you must see it, bear in mind that if you pay to see it, you will be giving money to a hate merchant. Furthermore, it's money you're giving to a hate merchant who has coordinated with terrorist groups like Hezbollah. Thus, if you pay for it, then in a very real sense you have the blood of innocents on your hands.
However, if you want to see it in a way that gives no money to hate merchants, you can download it and watch it over the Internet right here. Moore, because he wishes to spread his Stalinist vision to as many people as possible, has allowed it to be distributed free of charge over the Internet. So if you must see this hate-film, go see it that way.
After you do see it though, you owe it to yourself to immediately see FahrenHYPE 9/11, a documentary which deconstructs Moore's film, and shows time after time how Moore deliberately lies, deliberately fabricates and--in scenes that will make almost any decent human being weep--interviews many of the very same people Moore used in his film. The most heartrending interviews are those of the wounded veterans and the families of veterans who were killed, who were outraged and often in tears at how their images and words were so cynically and dishonestly manipulated by Moore.
Bear that in mind if you watch Moore's film, too: almost any time an injured soldier is shown in Moore's movie, or the family of a dead soldier is shown, in all but one or two cases those images were deliberatly skewed and without those people's permission, and to say things that most of them absolutely did not believe and found utterly shameful. Pay particular attention to the interview with the soldier Moore showed who lost both his arms, who was absolutely outraged when he found out Moore had used his image and what Moore's film had said about him, about America, and about the liberation of Iraq. He's interviewed extensively in FahrenHYPE 9/11. Also pay close attention to how, in Moore's hate-film, he uses footage of a weeping family at a military funeral. They, too, are interviewed in FahrenHYPE 9/11, and speak of how outraged and violated they feel by Moore, and how ashamed they are of the vile things Moore's film says.
Even if you haven't seen Moore's film, you owe it to yourself to see Fahrenhype 9/11. You also need to read Dave Kopel's Fifty-Nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11. Because you need to realize that Moore's film is not only a terrorist propaganda film, and an anti-American film, but things straight out of Michael Moore's film are now being parroted by Osama bin Laden and his followers. Moore's film is, literally, an Islamo-fascist recruitment and propaganda film, and it will be killing Americans and other innocents around the world for decades to come. You need to be aware of it, because all of us are going to be paying the price for Moore's perfidy for quite possibly the rest of our lives.
And finally, if you know anyone who believes the things in Michael Moore's film, you genuinely owe it to your country to try to get them to see how they've fallen for a Nazi-style propagandist. Show them FahrenHYPE 9/11, if they're open-minded enough to look. Talk to them about what's in Fifty-Nine Deceits in Fahrenheit 9/11, and about the horrible viciousness and blatant distortions and lies in Moore's film.
Some will smirk at you and laugh and roll their eyes. But some will listen. It's important to reach the people who will listen.
And might I also suggest that you donate to Truth for Troops?
Thanks.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
And so apparently, did bloggers. Shame on you Dean. Shame, shame, shame. You are hurting the people with this cynical and corrosive partisan hackery.
You were talking about the NYTimes and how bad it is getting. I brought up Dr. Seuss because he was a man that wanted Nixon out and wrote something quite catchy. It got a lot of attention and there soon came a Presidental Resignation.
Dr. Suess was loved throughout this country and even in these three books he is teaching us things.
1)The Sneetches, a story about anti-Semitism?
Little bottle shaped characters where some
had stars on their tummies and some did not.
2)Yertle the Turtle, a stand in for Hitler and
his crusade for social injustice. Or as he
put it, "against the dissemination of
stupidy"
3) Horton Hears a Who, a parable of the
American occupation of Japan.
During WWII he made propaganda films. He teamed up with Chuck Jones to create the, "Private Snafu" series.
Theodore S. Geisel, Dr.Seuss won an academy award for his documentary released in 1947. "DESIGN for DEATH" Well he puts it, To Keep power hungry nationalistic, "racketeers", in check, even himself.
The movie chronicles what lead up to Pearl Harbor. It is an absoutely fascinating documentary explaining how Japan though they were super Gods and takes you back 700 years in history.
Dr. Seuss books are among the top three books sold around the world.
I guess I have had that on my mind when Mike More made his movie and have wondered why he did this during, DURING A WAR. A movie to sway and divide people.
Little Matie Stepanek, the little boy that just passed away earlier this year wrote beautiful stories, poems and he was a very sick little boy in a wheelchair that had opened peoples hearts through his cherished words. His Hero was, Jimmy Carter because he studied him and believed Carter was a peacemaker. I got to see the excitement and joy that little boy got when a morning show brought president Carter to his side. Little Matti's face so full of great joy beamed across his face. President Carter did his euology and Oprah was there for the memorial.
Why did former president Carter have Michael Moore sit right beside him?
Dr. Seuss loved children everywhere. The warning he gave...Michael Moore is a power hungry nationalistic, RACKETEER!
In your spare time look up Theodore S. Geisel.
A CAT IN A HAT! Imagine that!
Nicely said. Thanks
I suggest you see FahrenHYPE 9/11, and read the materials I have linked for you. This movie is no better than The Turner Diaries or The Prococols of the Learned Elders of Zion, and its effects in the coming decades will be similarly corrosive and dangerous.
All decent people condemn Michael Moore.
The little boy Mattie Stepanek started writing at six years old. His book, Heartsong made millions of people go buy his books. The little boy wrote until his death this year and well known politicians and movie stars. He was on Good Morning America and Oprah.
I meant to give this web site because you will find great writers, poets, peacemakers and so much more. Dr. Seuss is there under writer's along with Mattie under poets and Jimmy Carter under peacemakers.
This web site is outstanding. The best of the best. Teachers and parents can get their children involved in writing who their hero is and why he is their hero.
www.myhero.com
Thanks Jane. It did bother me so much that President Carter had that guy sit in that box with him. I remember things Carter did and some were very good regarding peace.
When I watched the DNC and saw Carter I was mad, so very mad. Little children thought he was a hero. What in world caused that to happen? I can only guess that he liked Moore's movie and agreed with it, otherwise why else would he be seated next to him.
It is difficult for me to fathom what it is people think is worth condemning, if you cannot condemn a man who shames and embarasses the very troops who he shows interviewed in his movie, horrifies and violates the family members of our fallen to the point where they're in tears, allows his film to be distributed as propaganda by a known terrorist group in Syria and Palestine, that demoralizes our troops, and which has been shown to be full of horrible distortions and inaccuracies from people from all prts of the political spectrum.
If you cannot condemn that kind of film, what the hell can you condemn? What depths of depravity do you have to sink to?
Or is it just, "well he's left-wing, so he means well?" Because otherwise, honestly, I don't get it.
I will not have Michael Moore apologists in my home, or welcome them to Dean's World. There are somet things which are simply beyond the pale, regardless of your politics.
As far as me having the blood of innocents on my hands for buying Fahrenheit 9/11 then that's the way it goes. I walked into the movie theater to see Fahrenheit 9/11 like I do any movie. With an open-mind. But things in the movie just didn't click with me. So now I have the blood of innocents of my hands? Been there, done that. Sounds dispassionate? Comes from experience. In all due respect Dean, you have the actual blood of innocents and the guilty on your hands, you tend be selective how you use those words.
Heck, we all have the blood of innocents on our hands by your words, Dean. Do we really know what happens to our dollars when we buy clothing from countries with horrific labor practices? Yep. And I bet there's bloodshed involved.
If you know that someone is giving aid and comfort to terrorists, supporting them is an act of condoning and/or support. The dramatic way of stating that (as Dean wrote) is "blood on your hands."
You cannot rationalize it away by saying that other people may do things that are just as bad, too, even if they are ignorant of it. Were you ignorant of Michael Moore's support of terrorist organizations? A binary response is called for here. You either knew it or you did not know it.
As Dean has stated over and over, there is one reasonable and logical conclusion you can draw from Michael Moore and F9/11 and his dealing with Hezbollah to release the film in the Middle East.
Take some responsibility for your own actions and not look for excuses that "other people do bad things, too, so it's ok for me to do bad things." It sounds like playground talk. It really does.
That is simply a fact. I acknowledge it, and I have often grieved over it, and occasionally lost sleep over it.
Regarding buying clothing from countries which have horrific labor practices: I would have to say that it's harder to say. Which ones, and where? Are those horrific labor practices enabling people to eat who would otherwise not be able to eat at all? Is it enabling starving people a choice, and a way of pulling themselves up from the muck that will eventually let them over the years to bring themselves and their families to something better? The slave labor used in China is unconscionable, the poor work conditions of other nations is, well, it varies depending on what you're looking at.
But the simple fact of the matter is that if you opposed the liberation of Iraq, you opposed liberating people from what was almost certainly the second most evil regime on planet Earth (the most evil being, of course, Kim's regime in North Korea). In the particular case of Michael Moore's movie, if you gave money to see it then you gave money to a man who is a terrorist recruiter who portrayed America itself as evil, and whose film is even now being used by terrorists in the Middle East to recruit and inflame more people to kill innocents. It is no different, in any sense, from the films of Nazi or Stalinist propagandists. And in wartime, it amounts to little more than fascist, enemy propaganda. I will not stop me from speaking the truth and telling people that it is so.
So what's your goal, Solo? Mine is less death, less suferring, more freedom, and victory for the forces who forward those aims. Mine is also victory for American forces, and the continuing spread of democracy and human rights. What's Moore's? Whatever it is, the result is more death of innocents.
Dean and Mrs. du Toit: I did not like Fahrenheit 9/11. Frankly, I thought it was overblown and unfair. No I didn't know Michael Moore directly supported terrorist organizations. That's jacked up and COMPLETELY wrong. I had no problem with the liberation of Iraq except the original reasons that were told to us. You want to kill a damn evil dictator, you tell me damn it. And I'm with ya. You don't need to give me WMDs and all that. Tell me the straight dope and I'm down.
What concerns me is how we use "blood on our hands" somewhat casually. Dean, I know you take those words seriously and I respect you for it, man. BUT Americans, as a whole, through those words around and don't take heart in what they REALLY MEAN and what they REALLY INVOLVE. It means you are stained by the blood, responsible for the blood, and have to live with that blood. I go through the blogosphere and I see that phrase (and others) thrown around like water. And it burns me to my soul to see it. Maybe I'm just being too damn sensitive. Maybe I'm being unfair that i want people to actually experiece "blood on their hands". Maybe.
My goal Dean is the same as yours, bro.
We all have responsibility for the things we do and support. You have my respect for being willing to stand up to that, Solo.
Here are Dr. Suess's World War II cartoons. He skewers Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, Laval, and also the traitors, the appeasers, and the complacent fools here at home.
I admire Dean Esmay for opposing Lord Pork Pork's treasonous propaganda. I admire Dean's moral integrity, conviction, and passion on this issue. I salute every one of our brave men and women who are fighting for our country, for our freedom, and our noble veterans, too. Dean Esmay is as true a patriot as I have ever known. I condemn Michael Moore and all those who repeat his lies against our country. I condemn above all that mass murderer, Osama bin Laden, who is using Moore's "talking points" to weaken our resolve and thus to further his loathsome cause.
-Celsius 41.11, another great response to Fahrenheit 9/11 and Bush hatred in general.
-Michael and Me, Larry Elder's discussion of Bowling for Columbine, gun rights, the right to self-defense, and the racism and bigotry of gun-grabbers.
-(my very favorite), Michael Moore hates America, a shockingly thoughtful, provocative, meditative documentary on one Midwesterner's reaction to Moore's work and his discussions with those who have been used by Moore.
Tnank you. I'll have to see all 4 of these anti-Pork Pork films.
"Protocols of the Elders of Hollywood"?
"Protocols of the Very Learned Elders of Mount Horeb, WI." would be MUCH more interesting!
Probably. I'd be a little surprised if Michael Moore even owns the copyright, and very surprised if he owns it without restriction, seeing as he's not the only person who gets a paycheck from it. If he had the right to offer the movie on the Internet, and had actually chosen to do so, he'd have posted an easy download link on his own web site. You wouldn't have to go to an anti-Moore site, and then only find out where you can obtain file-sharing software to do it.
That some U.S. troops have also downloaded the movie has no bearing on its (il-)legality.