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Odd Things Seen In A Diner

The oddest things you see in everyday life sometimes.

This morning The Queen and I stopped for breakfast at a local cheap diner. While eating, I spied a n older man chatting with a young woman, probably his daugher. He had a slice of canteloupe and a slice of honeydew melon. As I watched, he picked up a shaker of black pepper, sprinkled it on his melon slices, and began to eat them.

I'm 38 years old and I've never seen anyone do such a thing. I found myself curious: does anyone else out there put peppers on his melons?

In case you were wondering, I don't find the thought gross. I may actually try it some time, if I think about it. I'm just curious if this is some common thing I'd just never noticed before. Pepper on melons?

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Jazz Shaw (mail) (www):
I salt them myself, but my wife puts both on. Not that unusual I suppose.
10.25.2004 11:27am
Tim (mail) (www):
I've never personally peppered a melon, but I have eaten canteloupe with white gravy containing pepper. Haven't thought of that in years. Damn, now I'm hungry.
10.25.2004 11:34am
Michael the ArchAngel:
My wife also puts salt on them (which I find an affrontage to a wonderful melon) but I've never seen or heard of putting pepper on it - till now.
10.25.2004 11:44am
Sandi (www):
Honeydew, cantelope or watermelon, they all require salt and pepper if I am going to eat them.

Now silly was my father putting sugar on his cottage cheese instead of salt and pepper. That is gross.
10.25.2004 12:25pm
MontieBurchett:
Dean,

Although I personally salt melons of all types, I have seen people use salt, pepper, salt and pepper, sugar, and yes, odd as it may sound (and gross to boot) white gravy, as mentioned by Tim.
10.25.2004 12:40pm
Ru:
I'm personally a fan of potato chips dipped in strawberry yoghurt. But only if they're plain potato chips.
10.25.2004 1:09pm
mariner:
I usually put either pepper or salt and pepper on canteloupe; I've been doing that since I was a small child.

I wonder if this is another of those North-South things?
10.25.2004 1:10pm
maor (mail):
Never done it, but I might start.
I just don't like sweet fruit. It's gotta be bland, sour, spicy, whatever. Not salty though, good heavens!
10.25.2004 1:29pm
Wince and Nod (mail) (www):
Tastes great!
10.25.2004 1:54pm
Ted Armstrong (mail):
I had an associate that claimed freshly ground pepper on fresh strawberries was excellent.
10.25.2004 2:12pm
pietro4bush (mail) (www):
I've always been a fan of melon wrapped in prosciutto (Italian cured ham)... I believe some varieties come peppered, but I could be wrong.
10.25.2004 2:14pm
Tim (mail) (www):
I wonder if this is another of those North-South things?

I'm not sure the melon/pepper thing is regional, but I have to believe this whole ketchup on the eggs thing Shelly does is definitely Yankee-bred.
10.25.2004 2:25pm
Dean Esmay (www):
...I have to believe this whole ketchup on the eggs thing Shelly does is definitely Yankee-bred.

As long as she doesn't put it on hot dogs. That's a hanging offense in Chicago.
10.25.2004 2:29pm
Ru:
you have to put ketchup on hot dogs
10.25.2004 2:38pm
Tim Worstall (www):
Freshly ground black pepper on melons (and strawberries) Ummmm. Not a North South thing as we do it in Europe too.
10.25.2004 2:47pm
The Black Republican (mail) (www):
Ketchup on scrambled eggs is definately a New Yawka thing - my Bronx-bred sisters all do it.
10.25.2004 3:12pm
Lucy (mail):
You haven't really lived until you've tried salt on watermelon!

My Dad used to carry a salt shaker in his pocket when my little brother and I helped him with the watermelons in the garden (because my brother would inevitably drop/crack-open a melon). Ya gotta be prepared for life's little emergencies!
10.25.2004 3:49pm
Lucy (mail):
Oh, and you ought to try salt on toast.

First, you need a good dense bread (something from Panera is nice). Lightly toast it, spread it with softened non-salted real butter (and a lot of it). Apply kosher salt liberally.

Its a totally different flavor than using pre-salted (aka "normal") butter!
10.25.2004 3:52pm
Calliope (mail):
I eat it plain, but I've seen it eaten with salt and pepper.

I have to admit I love a dish of Ranch Dressing to dip pizza in though. I've been told that's bizzarro.
10.25.2004 3:58pm
Dean Esmay (www):
Ru: you have to put ketchup on hot dogs

I knew you were evil somehow.

If we should ever meet, I have to kill you. Nothing personal, mind you.

Lucy: Oh, and you ought to try salt on toast.

DIE HERETIC!
10.25.2004 4:23pm
Wince and Nod (mail) (www):
Dean,

Due to their condiment choices, if you ever come near my children, I will be forced to slay you preemptively. Nothing personal, mind you.

Salt on toast? Sounds like pretzels to me.

Yours,
Wince
10.25.2004 4:35pm
Lucy (mail):
There are none so blind as those who will not see :)
10.25.2004 4:35pm
Ru:
Its a cultural thing Dean.
Society made me do it !!!!!
10.25.2004 4:40pm
Sandi (www):
Ketchup on eggs is ok but rather bland. Try 'salsa'! for a real morning treat and waker-upper.

Or make my favorite sauce for eggs, or dipping:

1 pkg. (8 oz.) cream cheese, softened
1 can cheddar cheese soup
1 cup Chunky Salsa

Microwave and serve hot.
10.25.2004 4:45pm
Ru:
Sandi,
the ketchup egg-yoke mix is the real prize.
10.25.2004 4:48pm
Sandi (www):
-Ru

I know, I have had it. Not too bad, but it needs zip!
10.25.2004 5:13pm
Paul Burgess (www):
I don't use ketchup. But I love mustard. Mustard on hot dogs. Mustard on hamburgers. I even dip my French fries in mustard!!!

Preferably hot mustard. Though I'll use that insipid bright yellow stuff if it's the only mustard available. Yes, even on fries.
10.25.2004 5:17pm
Ru:
Sandi
you may want to try a concoction called Yorkshire relish. It is a mixture of jalapenos, Malt, Molasses, vinegar, and whole lot of other things boiled up until it is black. If you have tried it you'll know. if not - try it, you won't be disappointed. Don't know if you can get it America though.
10.25.2004 5:21pm
Suman Palit (www):
Doesn't sound so odd to me. I've had oranges with hot chili pepper, and melons with pepper and salt. Great stuff..
10.25.2004 6:09pm
Jazz Shaw (mail) (www):
Louisiana Hot Sauce and salt and pepper on eggs. Salsa is ok in a pinch. Cheese, of course.

Hot dogs require ketchup, mustard, relish, and when available... chili, melted cheese, kraut. Plain hot dogs are just starvation avoidance.
10.25.2004 6:19pm
triticale (mail):
"Yes, we stock ketchup, if you purchase fries to dip in it we can give you some. We do not sell hot dogs with ketchup. Mustard, piccalilli, tomato, cucumber, sport peppers, and of course celery salt. If you wish to purchase a hot dog with ketchup on it, kindly take your business elsewhere."
10.25.2004 8:44pm
Scott Harris (mail) (www):
Oh Yeah,

Salt and pepper on Watermelon. Or even add sugar. Seen it hundreds of times.

Also, Potato chips in strawberry yogurt is a delicacy not to be missed. Good call Ru.

Hot sauce on fried eggs? Mmmmmmmm!

Also try eggs red, my great-grandfather's daily breakfast. (runny eggs with chili)

Salt and sugar on grits, or cream of wheat, which ever you prefer.

My kids eat ketchup on eggs and on their mashed potatoes.

Cold boiled shrimp wrapped in snow peas is good, too.
10.25.2004 10:39pm
Scott Harris (mail) (www):
And of course, French fries covered in mushroom gravy is a family favorite.
10.25.2004 10:42pm
John Irving (mail):
A friend of mine mixes mayo with ketchup for his fries. I cant even watch.
10.25.2004 11:40pm
Jim Ausman (mail):
Chili cheese fries.

Nothing better.
10.26.2004 12:43am
vi-co (mail):
Mayo is decent on fries. Honey is also good, although it gets a little sweet. I don't eat ketchup on anything, and vinegar is my absolute favourite on fries.

But aside from vinegar, if you want good fries, you've got to go with poutine... Fries liberally mixed with cheese curds and drenched in gravy. Yum!

Melissa
10.26.2004 1:43am
Little Miss Attila (mail) (www):
Fries: Salt, or ketchup. Either way. I alternate.

Melon: Plain. But my Nebraskan family members put salt on it. I remember agonizing as a child over whether it was better with or without. I decided without. Though melon and prosciutto is still wonderful.

Hot dogs: If they are Hebrew Nationals, plain. Regular hot dogs should have mustard on 'em.

Eggs: If not part of Huevos Rancheros or Eggs benedict or something, they want Tabasco or some other hot sauce. Or salt and pepper as a last resort (and are standard on hard-boiled eggs). Ketchup would be pointless on eggs.

(I'm a Southern California girl with roots in the Lower Midwest and my culinary heart in Mexico.)
10.26.2004 1:54am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
I've never heard of pepper, much less salt, on a watermelon or any other fruit before. I also never add salt to any of my foods, but my Mama does that all the time.

I also do not ever, never, put syrup on my French toast, waffles, or pancakes. I love lots of butter on them, though.

My Grandpa (a.k.a., Cato the Mighty) once said to me: "I get a kick out of your Dad. He fills half his cup with coffee and half his cup with cream -- and then he kicks about his coffee being too weak!" That always cracks me up.

I'm even weirder. I don't drink tea by itself, but I often have licorice spice tea in my coffee. When I'm in a cafeteria where you can fill your own glass, I often fill a third of it with lemonade, a third with Dr. Pepper, and another third with root beer. I also sometimes mix ice cream flavors, too.

I've sometimes filled a glass at home with egg, milk, cinnamon, and nutmeg. Milk and vanilla extract is delicious, too.

A few days ago, I put mustard and steak sauce on some noodles. I have had peanut butter, jelly, and tuna sandwiches, too.

I also sometimes have a special symbolic ritual of having whipped cream on chocolate ice cream. I love whipped cream, it's delicious on so many things.

When I was a little boy, I used to put sugar on everything, including steak and potatoes. In 6th grade, a kid in the cafeteria liked to dip his carrots in chocolate pudding.

One thing I hate watching is people putting crackers in their soup.
10.26.2004 2:29am
Ru:
Jim you gotta try Curry Cheese fries. Hmmm Ummm taste of the east.
10.26.2004 7:41am
Sam Muldia (mail) (www):
Eggs - salt and pepper.

Ketchup - the devil on anything but hot dogs and hamburgers, where it is a requirement. Also, despite what the Italians say, ketchup can only improve any form of pasta. Never ever let ketchup near my french fries or I'll have to kill you. Same goes for vinegar.

OTOH, I totally agree about poutine - a veritable food of the gods. Only problem is, I can't find cheese curds anywhere in Estonia. Apparently we don't deem them edible as such and make something else out of them.
10.26.2004 9:20am
Janelle :
Dean, once again, you have me wondering about your Mother!?!

A few nights ago you posted how William Shatner was buying a seat to go into space and you said, Hey...this is *cool*.

Well, what I thought was *cool*, is that YOU were *COOL*, for taking us to so many interesting places.

Dean, this question about pepper sure prompted quite a bit of interest. When I brought it to your attention that I wondered about your Mother, you replied...She encouraged me to read a lot.

This post tells me, perhaps that was great she did that but,

... YOU NEED to take ROSEMARY out to eat more!

(by the way...catsup? or ketchup?)
10.26.2004 10:18pm
Janelle :
Oh, I LIKE GREEN EGGS and HAM!
10.27.2004 4:55am
caltechgirl:
I do I like them, Sam I am :)
10.27.2004 6:18pm