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I was semi-wrong and I'm semi-sorry. (Karol Sheinin)

John McCain often rubs me the wrong way. I hate that this longtime Washington politician was considered the maverick outsider in the 2000 election. I hate that Democrats claim to love him despite his sameness on most issues with Bush. And most of all, I hate Campaign Finance Reform, otherwise known as the Act To Ensure That Only The Media Has Any Control over people's opinions on their candidates.

So, tonight, when he went on and on in his speech about his "Democratic friends," I was annoyed. But then, he gave the killer line of the speech with the loudest applause coming after the words "film maker" and it went on and on and on:

"It was a choice between war and a graver threat. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Not our critics abroad. Not our political opponents. And certainly not a disingenious film maker who would have us believe that Saddam's Iraq was an oasis of peace when in fact it was a place of indescribably cruelty, torture chambers, mass graves, and prisons that destroyed the lives of the small children held inside their walls."
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JFH (mail):
Hey Karol,

Who the heck are those losers commenting on your blog?... They're so out there they might have well been the equivalent of "Mobys" for the Republicans (or are you just cursed with some really DUMB lefty commenters?)
8.31.2004 12:18am
Dean Esmay (www):
Hell, after the convention's over, I might just go through Karol's comments and pick out and make a posting entitled "The Best Of Karol's Moonbats." Should be hilarious!
8.31.2004 12:39am
Ronin (mail):
JFH - the quality of the comments on Karol's blog are indicative of the kind of and the quality of the debate that loony leftists, inspired by the likes of Michael Moore and George Soros, and DU engage in. Seems to me , some of them have been so overcome by their totally irrational hatred against the person of George Bush, that they have become unable to put together one, single, rational thought!!!
8.31.2004 12:50am
Karol (mail):
I have no idea! It's a whole new bunch of people. So weird!
8.31.2004 1:03am
Scott Nolte:
I logged into Spot On and looking at the comments felt like my home blog had been hijacked.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD KAROL DO SOMETHING! hehe.

I thought about responding with something substantive but decided to let the moonbats play as there are some types of people not worth arguing with.

....Now I'm thinking about toying with them but I hate to dumb down a debate to a "I'm boning your mother" level.
8.31.2004 2:13am
Mark Noonan (mail):
McCain did do a good job - and staked out a good position for 2008 (its a cinch that unless President Bush loses in 2004, anyone who wants the GOP nomination in 2008 better have President Bush at least neutral about him, if not on his side; so, its a natural that McCain would do the loyal trooper thing - and, at any rate, if if McCain and President Bush really don't like each other much, the plain fact of the matter is that anyone with any sense can see that President Bush's war policy is the right one - so of course McCain would back it).

Unfortunately, for John McCain, Rudy did a much better job. We might see the very strange thing of a rightwing, pro-life GOP nominating a middle of the road, pro-choicer in 2008...because he's rock-solid on the war.
8.31.2004 3:41am
Ted Armstrong (mail):
Don't forget Jeb Bush in 2008. He's a possiblity too. Or Rice.
8.31.2004 8:47am
Dave (mail) (www):
I'd favor Rudy over McCain. I'd favor Condi over Rudy, but she'd also make a good veep for him.

Jeb I just don't know too much about.
8.31.2004 10:06am
Mitchell Morris (mail):
Of course the Dems like McCain, and of course he agrees with President Bush. GWB is the latest in a long line of Texas Republicans which includes LBJ and other money-vomiting Christian Social Democrats. "Compassionate Conservatism" my rosy red butt ... Bush hasn't seen a social spending program yet that he hasn't wanted to throw money at.

That said, the President has done a stellar job of recognizing that we are at war and that the way to be done with it is to go straight through and come out of it on the other side as the winner.
8.31.2004 11:09am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
The supreme and decisive issue of this election is: Are we at War or are we not? Who or what is the Enemy? And should we fight to win it or not?

The Democrats have been somnambulating since 9/10/2001. They still think the main issue is economic equality through more federal spending and controls. The Republicans are at least partially awake. They realize that we are at War and that that is the key issue.

The outcome of this War on Islam's Terror will decide everything else. The very survival of America and Western civilization is at stake. If we lose, there will be no homosexual marriage, no liberty or equality for women, no freedom of speech, no freedom of religion, no privacy, no freedom at all.

And we will either win or lose. There is no substitute for victory. Negotiation, compromise, detente, coexistence, accomodation, appeasement -- out of the question. There can be no compromise with an enemy that seeks to enslave or destroy us. We must never surrender. We must fight to the death. Either we destroy the enemy or else they will destroy us.

"Victory, victory at all cost, victory however long and hard the road may be, for without victory there is no survival."
-Winston Churchill
8.31.2004 12:27pm
Alan Blue (mail):
_IF_ Bush wins, and _IF_ he picks a couple of Supremes... it won't matter so much what the next President's social values are. Or the President after that.
8.31.2004 2:41pm
Dean Esmay (www):
Why Alan? Just because Roe v. Wade might go? A growing number of legal scholars, even left-leaning ones, are acknowledging that it was a pretty weak decsion, and if it were overturned, all that would happen is the states would go back to being able to regulate the practice. It's not like suddenly we'd all be forced to go to Sunday School or something.
8.31.2004 2:57pm
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
I'm far more concerned about conserving Lawrence and Garner vs. Texas (June 26, 2003), the most important decision in my lifetime, the culmination of so many others. I notice the Democrats never seem to mention that one in any of their platforms and speeches. It's still all Roe vs. Wade, Roe vs. Wade, Roe vs. Wade... Oh, and, of course, Bush vs. Gore, that utterly insignificant decision that they are still whining about simply because _their_ candidate didn't get in. I support the Supreme Court and its decisions upholding my inalienable individual rights. Who and which party wins or doesn't win elections is nothing compared to that.
9.1.2004 2:19am
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