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Not Funny

Look. I'm not going to vote for the guy. And I really hate to be a wet blanket. But there's this graphic floating around that's supposed to be funny, and honestly I don't think it's funny.

At all.

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Brian Tiemann (mail) (www):
Note that this picture isn't doctored or Photoshopped at all. It's straight from the AP photo archives.

Which at the very least makes it a bit eyebrow-raising.
7.9.2004 6:24am
Dean Esmay (www):
I believe if you look closely you'll note that Kerry is probably 10 or 15 feet behind the guy holding the gun, and it's just a funny camera angle.
7.9.2004 7:03am
Mason (mail):
I think it is funny, precisely for the reason you just said. It's the camera angle of the week award.
7.9.2004 8:12am
Mike (mail):
I had some nut shoot a shotgun into my car Tuesday night, so no, I don't think it is very funny either.

Then again, I could be a little jaundiced about the whole thing.
7.9.2004 8:24am
Timothy Snyder:
You're NOT voting for Kerry? I'm shocked! Who woulda thunk that Mr. Dean Esmay would be voting for Bush?

Seriously though, the man's strong opposition to stem -cell research should be an indicator that the man is not taking this country forward. Mars?!? That's just crazy talk, but we need a President that is progressive and not longing for the so called "good old days."
7.9.2004 8:58am
Dean Esmay (www):
Well Tim, my view is that stem cell research is controversial enough that government should not be funding it. There's no ban on private research, but I don't think taxpayers should be paying for something that so many of them feel so uncomfortable with.

Let private researchers invest the money, take the risks, reap the rewards, etc.

That's one thing that gets me though: how many people think Bush banned stem cell research. That didn't happen. All he did was end government spending on new stem cell lines.

I feel the same way about government funding of the arts by the way. I think that if enough taxpayers feel uncomfortable with something, then tax dollars shouldn't pay for it. Do whatever art you want on your own dime and your own time and I'll back you 110% on your first amendment rights. But government money? Taxpayers have a right to say "I don't want to pay for that." And I'd even rather the government err on the side of caution, so even if only 30 or 40% strongly object to something, that's reason enough to consider not using tax dollars on it (unless you can prove an overriding national interest of course).
7.9.2004 9:24am
Dean Esmay (www):
By the way Tim, when are you getting your own weblog? You'd be good at it you know...
7.9.2004 9:24am
Rachel Ann Anolick (mail) (www):
I think the reason it is considered funny is the same reason Bush Sr. throwing up in someone lap was considred funny, or Bush Jr. speech difficulties is funny.

It isn't really, it is veering off from the issues and mudslinging. I don't know who I'm voting for to tell you the truth; but all the jibberish does is annoy me.
7.9.2004 10:22am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
Here's yet another stupid, ugly photo of the stupid, ugly Kerry, who obviously doesn't have a clue as to how to hold a gun without blasting himself in the foot while it's planted firmly in his mouth ? and assumes the rest of us don't either. Posing with hunters while supporting the gun-ban lobby. Fake, phony fraud, as my friend Jeff Soyer called him. As dishonest as Clinton ever was while having not even the charisma Gore displayed in 2000. Photo courtesy of my friend Jeff Soyer at Alphecca.

Hmmm.... Doesn't sound like I want to vote for four years of having to look at and hear about Kerry, does it? As for Bush... FMA. That stands for an expletive.
7.9.2004 11:54am
Steven Malcolm Anderson (www):
Dean wrote:
"I feel the same way about government funding of the arts by the way. I think that if enough taxpayers feel uncomfortable with something, then tax dollars shouldn't pay for it. Do whatever art you want on your own dime and your own time and I'll back you 110% on your first amendment rights."

That's where I am also. I'm against government subsidies for art because what the government, especially the federal government, subsidizes, it controls or wants to (well, actually, it wants to control everything anyway, but anyway...).

And, so, you get political tugs-of-war between the Jesse Helms types who want to ban everything they consider "immoral" on the one side, and on the other side "artistes" like Andres Serrano who demand that the government subsidize their "Piss Christ". They want to shock and outrage everybody (mostly they only bore us) while demanding a subsidy from Big Daddy in order to do so.

And, while insisting that federal funding for "Piss Christ" or the Virgin Mary covered with excrement is essential to freedom of expression, they ban Christmas nativity scenes, the Pledge of Allegiance, and every other religious symbol or expression that comes to their attention in the name of "separation of church and state".
7.9.2004 12:09pm
Bill from INDC Journal (mail):
Not sure why you are righteous about it, Dean. It's funny because of a random camera angle.
7.9.2004 4:24pm
Dean Esmay (www):
I'm not trying to be righteous about it, but the names that come to mind are John Hinckley, Sirhan Sirhan, Squeaky Fromm, and Lee Harvey Oswald.

I just don't like it. That could very well be the next President of the United States, and to me that demands a certain seriousness that I can't just laugh at.
7.9.2004 7:42pm
Joe Gandelman (mail):
This is another example of the political double standard in America and polarization.

You KNOW -- repeat KNOW -- that there would be a SCREECHING HEADLINE on Drudge if this had been George Bush, Dick Cheney or even Rush Limbaugh in that photo. Rush would devote days to it. Sean Hannity would be talking about it on his radio show and TV show. Bill O'Reilly would throw a fit. But it's OK if it's aimed at one side. There is a real meanness in American humor right now. I've noticed on my blog if I DARE poke fun at someone on one side I get a slew of angry emails and some folks who take it very personally if I dare poke fun at their side.

But this crosses the line. Unless I am imagining things I thought I JUST read and heard about a fiction book that deals with someone trying to kill Bush and it was a huge issue...which it SHOULD BE. I think it's inappropriate. But show a photo with a gun pointed at Kerry's head, and that's a riot.

The sign of what's going on is that you really can't listen to a right or left radio show with them daring to make fun of both sides. That's why I love the Capitol Steps, for all their flaws..since they blast everyone. Humor has traditionally in America been used as partisan propaganda on both sides. That's not new. What's new is the double standard on this and other issues. To someone who is not a member of either party it's dismaying.

You would think by now that we would not be doing anything remotely encouraging the sick minds out there to go after ANYONE on the right or on the left. I don't see the humor in this kind of photo with Kerry in it, Bush in it, or Nader in it. Sorry. On this I am PC.
7.10.2004 2:39pm
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