Dean's World

Defending the liberal tradition in history, science, and philosophy.

Technical Matters

Tons of you have written to let me know that the new site doesn't look right in Safari. Those of you who sent screen shots were most helpful. We're working on it now, although I'm told that other Mac browsers don't have this problem so you might want to try Internet Explorer or Firefox or one of those--but with any luck it'll be fixed tonight.

Also, we're working on fixing some weirdness with the comment registration. It works but it's formatted oddly. If you're having trouble registering, just fill out the information and press your Enter key.
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Arnold Harris (mail):
They're right about Safari. Go back to crummy Courier, if that's all you've got.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
7.6.2004 10:34pm
Paul Burgess (www):
Dean, it's looking good with the new fonts, but things are mutating almost by the minute. The "Web" radio button under the Google search is now correctly situated, which it was not just a few minutes ago. Also, Not five minutes ago, there were several comments in this thread— now I quit my browser for a few minutes, come back, and Arnold's comment has appeared, and the half dozen or so earlier comments have disappeared.

Wha' hoppen??
7.6.2004 11:01pm
Arnold Harris (mail):
Oh boy.

I just logged onto Dean's World from one of my business computers, which is equipped with a Dell flatscreen superwide monitor.

Now everything on the screen appears like what your website designer was really thinking about.

Imagine reading all this stuff on a 21" monitor, appearing full width. Then you'll know what I'm talk about.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
7.6.2004 11:06pm
Paul Burgess (www):
Ah! I see that among other things, "wha' hoppen" is that the problem with Safari has been solved. Only 10 or 15 minutes ago, the middle column was missing in Konqueror 3.1.0 (same rendering engine as Safari). Now Dean's World looks okay in Konqueror.

Also looks fairly good (and looks pretty much the same) in Opera 7.51 and Mozilla 1.3.1 for Linux.

And I agree with Arnold, it's looking better and better, and it's starting to look like it damn well ought to.
7.6.2004 11:08pm
Dean Esmay (www):
Chris is working on the HTML so don't worry about changes. They're being made as we speak.

I didn't see any comments disappear. Are you sure you just aren't reading the wrong thread Paul?
7.6.2004 11:08pm
Chris Lansdown (mail) (www):
Paul,

Are you sure that there were comments that disappeared?

This absolutely should never happen, and I've never had any reports before of data loss (which were known not to have happened from user error, e.g. forgetting to actually hit "publish"). This is worrisome, because the most important rule is that data shall never be lost.

You're quite right about the format (etc) mutating quickly, though — I'm working rather hard to get Dean's site perfect.
7.6.2004 11:09pm
OF Jay (www):
Dean, how are you positioning your sidebars? Are you using consecutively floated divs, or are you using absolute positioning? Because stacked floats Safari abhors.
7.6.2004 11:09pm
Paul Burgess (www):
Dean and Chris,

Sorry, my mistake. Somehow I got mixed up— got this thread confused with the "New Fonts" thread, down below.

And the site is indeed looking damn good. Fascinating to watch it develop, almost by the minute.
7.6.2004 11:12pm
Mark D. Firestone:
Dean - I think I'm in.
7.6.2004 11:15pm
Chris Lansdown (mail) (www):
Paul,

No problem. You just had me worried for a minute there. :-)

Seriously, there's nothing more important about a computer program than it never loses data. Thanks for bringing the possible problem to my attention, though.

I'd rather false alarms than unnoticed failures.
7.6.2004 11:31pm
R. Alan (www):
Another thing you might want to know....if you click a link in the comment popup window the link loads in the popup window.
7.7.2004 1:20am
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Of course we all lose our tempers now and then. Dean freely admits to being imperfect in this regard, which is why regulars to this establishment will generally be cut more slack than people who we don't know very well.

Still: behave like an adult, or go find somewhere else to play. Thanks.