Told you so... Been telling you so for about 30 years. See my ROPwatch - Tradition! which shows a 1970 TIME magazine cover.
By the way, Dean... can you tell Sondra, here, how to change her MT RSS feed settings so they're like yours. Yours come in through my NewsGator perfectly. Most RSS feeds are set at the minimum length and this is annoying.
Well, it's a step up from the pretend scalpings in our cowboys an'ninjins games we played in the '50s. It's even a step up from the pirate games where we made them walk the plank.
How big a step? That I'll have to think about.
Dani, they didn't have to teach and choreograph it, we did it on our own. They did, however take pictures. Granted, few of those pictures ended up on news media. If I were to post the pictures from those old games from fifty years ago the multicultis would all drop over dead from the anal bleeding caused by shitting bricks.
Children are sponges, they act out in play, whatever they see, they repeat everything they hear. These children are seeing particularly horrible things. The question in my mind is just how different qualatively, rather than quantitively, it is. When I was seven, my brothers and I made a 'flame thrower' with some tanks we had around the barn, one tank had water, the other two compressed air. Dad helped with the welding. We used it to play war, anybody that got wet had to roll around screaming while they 'burned to death'. Fifty years later I've yet to incinerate anyone. Nor have my brothers.
Moral reletivism? Hell, I'm just asking?
Maybe the reason you're "just asking" is because you're unreflectively stupid.
My father actually and really unleashed flame throwers into caves, over and over again, on Okinawa and other islands, and watched Japanese soldiers run screaming in flames right towards him.
But when I was growing up I don't remember us re-enacting any of those things.
I do remember, for my whole life, the knot visible high on the right of my Dad's forehead, visible legacy of one his five Purple Hearts.
Life is important and serious, Peter. Stop talking shit.
Peter makes a good point actually; it's not the kids who are to blame here, nor is it a given that these children will grow up to be murderers. Nevertheless, what it tells us about the culture those kids are steeped in is disturbing.
When I played Cowboys and Indians as a child, sometimes the Indians won. Sometimes they were good guys. Sometimes we mad peace. And we didn't glorify in holding the Indians down and killing them in cold blood, but in a fight one side or the other had started.
By the way, I have American Indian ancestors. Miami tribe.
I don't believe for one minute that the children in the video were acting out childish games. Just look at it- perfectly set up, perfectly aligned for the camera.
I'm sure Peter's Dad (and I'm positive Jerome's Dad) didn't say, "Now children, this is how we kill those dirty Commie bastards. Okay now Peter, you stand here- smile now. I want to send this to all our family members, the local papers, AP and UPI. That's good- hold it... Yes!"
What little kids garner from comic books and old Westerns- fictionalized events fifty to three hundred years old- and re-enact Lord-of-the-Flies style is one thing. Being educated by their parents to murder real Westerners and bragging about it is entirely another matter.
Dean, ditto! I played indians and cowboys as well, The Lone Ranger and Tonto to be exact. I would get so mad at my brother because he got to be The Lone Ranger more than me. He was older what can I say...that stinker! We sure didn't take any scalps either.
Dean, I don't think anyone is blaming these children. That, however, was not Peter's point in his first post. For him to imply that this video is just about child's play is utterly disingenuous.
I'm not sure which is more saddening: the culture those kids must live in to produce that sort of callous, warped attitude or that reasonable people want to justify it by equating it to the liberation of Europe, my father's generation's sacrafices and the children's games of the Baby Boomers.
I never took that much interest in the cowboy stuff myself. When I was a boy, we played space aliens, stuff from Saturday morning cartoon shows, "Superman", "The Wizard of Oz", "Dick Tracy" and cops 'n' robbers, "Get Smart", "Batman and Robin".
None of that had anything to do with politics, much less Islam and the destruction of the West.
Dani:
"I'm sure Peter's Dad (and I'm positive Jerome's Dad) didn't say, 'Now children, this is how we kill those dirty Commie bastards. Okay now Peter, you stand here- smile now. I want to send this to all our family members, the local papers, AP and UPI. That's good- hold it... Yes!'"
Maybe not, but you know that some parents did, just as some are teaching kids to hate and kill "rag-heads" today.
Those kids don't really know what they're enacting, just as we didn't understand the horror of what American settlers did to Native Americans (and, occasionally, vice-versa) or the general horrors of war. But any adult involved in helping kids learn the mechanics of violence without teaching the hateful meaning should be ashamed of themselves. Any adult who teaches kids to hate is unfit to be around children.
ok, ... I quit. If this has become "fun" then we're totally, utterly screwed.
We are totally screwed TC.........
I'm still in shock.
Told you so... Been telling you so for about 30 years. See my ROPwatch - Tradition! which shows a 1970 TIME magazine cover.
By the way, Dean... can you tell Sondra, here, how to change her MT RSS feed settings so they're like yours. Yours come in through my NewsGator perfectly. Most RSS feeds are set at the minimum length and this is annoying.
See also Palestine Judenrein from January and Protocols of the Wahhabi Elders of Mecca from last August.
That is not funny and really sad to see. I hope this isn't any of our children portraying those evil bastards.
That would mean their parents are sick to have let them see those gruesome acts of crime for their children to make this video.
Just the thought that kids are portraying that, in which case looks like fun for them, is disgusting.
My RealPlayer needs a shower. Or maybe I'll just burn it.
Well, it's a step up from the pretend scalpings in our cowboys an'ninjins games we played in the '50s. It's even a step up from the pirate games where we made them walk the plank.
How big a step? That I'll have to think about.
Oh, those wacky Muslims and their highjinks!
Peter, the difference here is that our parents didn't teach, choreograph and film our highjinks. So enough with the moral relativism, already.
Dani, they didn't have to teach and choreograph it, we did it on our own. They did, however take pictures. Granted, few of those pictures ended up on news media. If I were to post the pictures from those old games from fifty years ago the multicultis would all drop over dead from the anal bleeding caused by shitting bricks.
Children are sponges, they act out in play, whatever they see, they repeat everything they hear. These children are seeing particularly horrible things. The question in my mind is just how different qualatively, rather than quantitively, it is. When I was seven, my brothers and I made a 'flame thrower' with some tanks we had around the barn, one tank had water, the other two compressed air. Dad helped with the welding. We used it to play war, anybody that got wet had to roll around screaming while they 'burned to death'. Fifty years later I've yet to incinerate anyone. Nor have my brothers.
Moral reletivism? Hell, I'm just asking?
Peter: you lost me the twelve seconds it took for you to type "well, it's a step up..."
How the hell can you ameliorate that kind of display?
Peter:
Maybe the reason you're "just asking" is because you're unreflectively stupid.
My father actually and really unleashed flame throwers into caves, over and over again, on Okinawa and other islands, and watched Japanese soldiers run screaming in flames right towards him.
But when I was growing up I don't remember us re-enacting any of those things.
I do remember, for my whole life, the knot visible high on the right of my Dad's forehead, visible legacy of one his five Purple Hearts.
Life is important and serious, Peter. Stop talking shit.
JdB
Peter makes a good point actually; it's not the kids who are to blame here, nor is it a given that these children will grow up to be murderers. Nevertheless, what it tells us about the culture those kids are steeped in is disturbing.
When I played Cowboys and Indians as a child, sometimes the Indians won. Sometimes they were good guys. Sometimes we mad peace. And we didn't glorify in holding the Indians down and killing them in cold blood, but in a fight one side or the other had started.
By the way, I have American Indian ancestors. Miami tribe.
I don't believe for one minute that the children in the video were acting out childish games. Just look at it- perfectly set up, perfectly aligned for the camera.
I'm sure Peter's Dad (and I'm positive Jerome's Dad) didn't say, "Now children, this is how we kill those dirty Commie bastards. Okay now Peter, you stand here- smile now. I want to send this to all our family members, the local papers, AP and UPI. That's good- hold it... Yes!"
What little kids garner from comic books and old Westerns- fictionalized events fifty to three hundred years old- and re-enact Lord-of-the-Flies style is one thing. Being educated by their parents to murder real Westerners and bragging about it is entirely another matter.
Dean, ditto! I played indians and cowboys as well, The Lone Ranger and Tonto to be exact. I would get so mad at my brother because he got to be The Lone Ranger more than me. He was older what can I say...that stinker! We sure didn't take any scalps either.
Dean, I don't think anyone is blaming these children. That, however, was not Peter's point in his first post. For him to imply that this video is just about child's play is utterly disingenuous.
I'm not sure which is more saddening: the culture those kids must live in to produce that sort of callous, warped attitude or that reasonable people want to justify it by equating it to the liberation of Europe, my father's generation's sacrafices and the children's games of the Baby Boomers.
Get real people.
I never took that much interest in the cowboy stuff myself. When I was a boy, we played space aliens, stuff from Saturday morning cartoon shows, "Superman", "The Wizard of Oz", "Dick Tracy" and cops 'n' robbers, "Get Smart", "Batman and Robin".
None of that had anything to do with politics, much less Islam and the destruction of the West.
Dani:
"I'm sure Peter's Dad (and I'm positive Jerome's Dad) didn't say, 'Now children, this is how we kill those dirty Commie bastards. Okay now Peter, you stand here- smile now. I want to send this to all our family members, the local papers, AP and UPI. That's good- hold it... Yes!'"
Maybe not, but you know that some parents did, just as some are teaching kids to hate and kill "rag-heads" today.
Those kids don't really know what they're enacting, just as we didn't understand the horror of what American settlers did to Native Americans (and, occasionally, vice-versa) or the general horrors of war. But any adult involved in helping kids learn the mechanics of violence without teaching the hateful meaning should be ashamed of themselves. Any adult who teaches kids to hate is unfit to be around children.
Sorry Shep , I don't know any parents who would have done that. And I grew up in the wild, wild west.
You think the west is wild, visit Louisiana some time ;-)
I've lived in Louisiana. What a state.