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June 26, 2004

Heads Will Roll...(Joe Gandelman)

It's happened again...and this time three Turkish citizens are dead meat (see post below about lessons of beheading). CNN just reported:

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Terrorists in Iraq claimed to have kidnapped three Turkish citizens and threatened to behead them if Turkey does not pull its companies out of Iraq, the Arabic-language television network Al-Jazeera reported Saturday.

    Al-Jazeera broadcast a video showing three people seated, holding what appeared to be identification documents, while two armed masked men pointed guns at them. The network did not air any sound from the tape.

    The report came just hours before President Bush was due in Turkey for a NATO summit.

    According to Al-Jazeera, the video is from a group that calls itself Unification and Jihad. The group is believed to be linked to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the most wanted terrorist in Iraq who the coalition says is linked to al Qaeda.

    The same group kidnapped and beheaded American Nicholas Berg and South Korean Kim Sun-Il when its demands were not met.

    According to the text read by the Al-Jazeera anchor, the kidnappers called on the people of Iraq to denounce President Bush's visit to Turkey and to insist Turkish companies leave Iraq.


So clearly a)they are using the kidnappings and (certain) killings as a political tool to foment unrest when Bush arrives and b)this is timed so the three will have their heads chopped off shortly before (or on) the June 30th transfer of power to the new Iraqi government.

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Its also clever, if sick, politics on the part of the terrorists - the Turks are not remembered kindly in Iraq given the centuries of Turkish misrule in the area prior to WWI; in a way, this is an appeal to Iraqi nationalism.

It just once again drives home the fact that these barbarians are out to kill anyone, Moslem or not, who just doesn't want to be enslaved to an Islamo-fascist, theocratic super-State. The fact that there are people in the world who don't want to just hunt down and kill these bastards regardless of cost just amazes me.

There was this comedy move some years back in which the villain had a "Find Them and Kill Them" stamp; every government in the world should have this stamp and it should be our attitude entirely about these barbarians.

Posted by Mark Noonan on June 26, 2004 at 3:10 PM


Dead meat ???

Would you be saying that if they were Americans? Show some respect - or are the Turks our enemy, too now because they disagree with us?

Posted by Andrew | BYTE BACK on June 26, 2004 at 4:28 PM


ditto on "heads will roll." Actually, pretty sick.

I wonder if you've every critized anyone for this type of cavalier morbidity?

Posted by Andrew | BYTE BACK on June 26, 2004 at 4:30 PM


Absolutely no apologies whatsoever from me on my use of words. I'm simply stating what we all know is the fact. We are now in an era where people (including bloggers) are falling over each other to get to a computer to view still and video shots of decapitations and the aftermath of decapitations....and linking (or posting) photos of them on their sites.
I could revise it and say the fate of the hostages is uncertain until diplomatic efforts play themselves out...but that would be patently dishonest. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the terrorists will realize "Killing them would be wrong." I won't hold my breath.

Posted by Joe Gandelman on June 26, 2004 at 4:57 PM


If the Turks (or the S. Korean) authorities ever get their hands on the terrorist fucks, they'll make Abu Grahib prison look like Chucky Cheese. These latest events will surely rally the rest of the world to fight Al-Qada. If not, all is lost.

Posted by Tim the Soldier on June 26, 2004 at 5:56 PM


Andrew, you critsize Joe for words that you consider unseemly. I would rather you direct your attention to the actions of the kidnappers. That's what I consider unseemly.

Posted by Steve Edge on June 26, 2004 at 7:29 PM


Something to ponder. The transfer of power has already happened. When the CPA disbanded, power was transferred. While there was no formal ceramoney, I don't think that really matters to anyone except the media. There will be no difference between what happens on July the 2nd in Iraq and what happens today in Iraq. Bremmer's only power was that of the veto. Since there is no CPA producing anything for Bremmer to veto, it is logical that Bremmer has no power. So the July 01 thingy is just a dog and pony show for the media. And a trap for the terrorists.

Posted by ableiter on June 26, 2004 at 7:57 PM


George Bush’s Report Card on the War on Terror:

Less than 3 years after we all stood together in remorse, while looking at somber American Skies with no commercial smoke trails, I do feel a little Safer.

This has been a record time between what were becoming regular passenger jet Hijackings. We have modified some of our rules they were using to attack us with our own weapons. We have changed many terrorist daily lives from Training in the open in Afghanistan, hiding in the rugged hills of Pakistan.

We have replaced Saddam’s brutal dictatorship, with a puppet Democracy that requires our firepower to survive, for now.

Now every illiterate brainwashed Muslim that has an AK-47 and the desire to wage a Jihad with us, is coming to where the rules of engagement allow us destroy them in the structure they sleep in, or snipe them off like white tails at a feeder.

But the best results we have seen so far, is the increase in Muslim on Muslim violence. That proves to the entire world what natural born killers we are really dealing with. There has not been another major attack on American soil, and they are starting to lose the support of the populaces that had supported them when the victim was an infidel.

Now the reason we chose Iraq to be the second front in the overall war plan, is starting to bear a little fruit. The Iraqi Clerics and the new PM are starting to get tired of being a terrorist training ground for the region. The indigenous tribal and sectarian militias are even considering joining us in defense of their “home boys”. Someone has been pointing the finger or an infrared laser spot on the foreign borne Islamist’s safe?houses.

As long as we can find some brave volunteers to be Democratic Iraqi politicians, the whole “reform the region” plan is un-stoppable by any group other than our domestic enemies.

The kidnapping of these Turks is only brilliant in its timing. It will stoke the passions of the many Turks that were planning to protest Bush’s visit there anyway.

I dont need ANY politician or liberal media source to ever attempt to convince me that the Turks are our friends. Not taking our innternationally advertised 15 billion dollar bribe, and forcing us to park a division from Germany while they decided they did not want to be our friend, and causing us to ship these forces through the Suez canal and around the Arabian peninsula, forced us to reach the Sunni triangle after Baghdad. They still harbor illusions of being a player, from the Ottoman Empire.

No, I set here and watch THIS video of Radical Muslims threatening to execute their moderate Islamic brothers, and I have to just grin, and marvel at the progress.

Posted by Redneck Texan on June 27, 2004 at 12:48 AM


Well, that's all nice.

Steve you don't know I haven't, so your comment is particularly lame. i don't feel the need to express my sickness and breast-beating at every evil act in the world. That wasn't what struck me when I posted (and I am only commenting at a blog, not trying to save the effin world).

My deepest apologies to a numbnuts I don't know - and who doesn't know me (and who I might care about if I got to know. Who knows?).

Posted by Andrew | BYTE BACK on June 27, 2004 at 1:04 AM


Yeah, everybody give Andrew some slack. He's always like this.

Posted by McGehee on June 27, 2004 at 11:19 AM


 



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