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April 11, 2004

Interventionism Vs. Non-Interventionism

The Chicago Boyz are having an interesting dialogue on Interventionism vs. Non-Interventionism in foreign policy.

I happen to agree that it's wrong to smear non-interventionists with the "isolationist" label. That's never been a fair characterization. Prior to 9/11, I would have considered myself a non-interventionist--although over time I came to view the Cold War as a necessity, I also argued that after the Cold War ended we should adopt non-interventionism as our primary foreign policy stance again. That was my primary complaint with Clintonian foreign policy in fact.

After 9/11, I came to the conclusion that non-interventionism will never be an option until most of the globe is democratized. Given that about 60% of the world is democratized now, whereas 100 years ago almost none of it was, I don't find that an unrealistic hope. It'll just require the expenditure of lots of effort. An expenditure I have reluctantly come to the conclusion is an utter necessity.

And, since so much of what we laughably refer to as "the international community" is made up of thugs and theocrats, who also happen to rule that ridiculous body known as the United Nations, for now that falls upon a few brave democratic nations. Starting with the U.S., like it or not.

(Honestly, I don't much like it, and I wish it were otherwise, but oh well. Wish in one hand and crap in the other, see which fills up first.)

Anyway, you may want to leave your comments with the Boyz.

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Agreed, Dean. It amazes me that we should have such similar roots (I admit to being a tad more interventionist) and viewpoint about American foreign policy, and be so at odds with Bush's. Chalk it up to Bush (or anti-Bush, if you prefer) partisanship. I'll say this, if Bush had made a strong moral argument for taking down Saddam (without the scare-mongering rhetoric) and brought at least NATO into the game, there might be little difference at all. Scary, huh?

Posted by shep on April 12, 2004 at 3:35 PM


shep,

Bush made the strong moral argument for taking down Saddam. He talked about Saddam's human rights record over and over. I heard it. Dean heard it. Casey heard it. Mrs. du Toit heard it. Where were you?

Yours,
Wince

Posted by Wince and Nod on April 12, 2004 at 6:10 PM


Read the sentence again, Wince.

Posted by shep on April 14, 2004 at 6:57 PM


 



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