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February 06, 2004

More Musings On The Creative Process

The following essay is longish, and will mostly only interest people who do creative work.

In Understanding Comics (which, as I've said before, you should read if you do almost any kind of creative work--web design, application programming, scriptwriting, video production, journalism, short or long fiction, biographical non-fiction, etc. Yes, even if you don't like comics. Yes, it's that good. You should buy it), Scott McCloud unlocked many secrets of the storytelling process for me. But one of the things I've been musing on lately is the difference between Japanese and American storytelling styles.

There was a time when I found many Japanese movies, as well as many of their cartoons and comic books, confusing. I knew there was a difference in their style, but it seemed cryptic and weird, almost like there must be something fundamentally different about the Japanese mind. Incomprehensible, sometimes confusing, although I usually dug it even when I didn't get it.

For example, an archetypal scene in a Japanese movie (or cartoon or comic book) might run something like this: the protagonist is unexpectedly struck down by a goon. He goes flying. Then everything slows to a crawl, and you see the character in a falling-backward position, frozen. Maybe his hair is waving a bit is all. Then the camera cuts, and you see the clock on the wall next to the protagonist, and hear it ticking. You see some birds flying silhouetted against the moon in the window behind him. Then you see and hear some children laughing just outside the building. Suddenly (he's still falling, remember), the hero starts remembering some events from his distant past, some conversations he had, and muses upon them. Then the slow-motion suddenly stops, the hero finishes falling, grunts, turns, and pulls a gun on the goon who just hit him.

"What the hell was all that?" was what I thought any time I saw something like that in Japanese cinema or comics. I was utterly mystified. I thought there must be something deeply, fundamentally different about the Japanese, something almost alien. I sometimes hated it ("gaaah, I'm so confused, what the hell is going on?") but I often dug the style. "The Japanese brain must just be wired differently," I sometimes thought.

Indeed, I know people who refuse to read or look at Japanese comics or cartoons precisely because the see things like this and find them so confusing. Which is too bad, because it's not all that complicated or confusing once you understand a couple of things. Once you do unlock those simple secrets, Japanese art seems cooler than ever, and not at all confusing. They're not all that different from us at all, as it turns out, they just have a slightly different frame of reference.

To understand it, you first have to understand something about the American style of storytelling (which is also the style of most Western cultures): It is very action-oriented. And by "action," I do not mean sword and gun fights, either. A kiss, a bedroom scene, a quiet conversation between mother and son. We still tend to tell these in action-oriented fashion.

Let me see if I can't explain further: What's the #1 reason most Americans give for sitting through a movie even when when they're bored by it? "I want to see what happens next." What is the reason that people who hate Howard Stern still listen to his radio show? "I want to hear what he'll say next."

This attitude suffuses most of our cultural storytelling. By "storytelling," I do not mean just fiction. Read the sports page. Read newspaper stories about events overseas. Pick up almost any biography, especially those simple, popular ones like Monica Lewinsky's autobiography, or George Stephanopoulous' memoir of the years he spent working with the Clintons. The default mode of storytelling is usually the same: Event happens. Someone says or does something about it. Then this happens, and then that, and someone does this, and someone says that, and another thing happens and another thing happens and another thing happens, and we end by pondering what has happened, or possible future events. The end.

Almost all stories we Americans tell involve actions, consequences, and reactions. It is not just Americans, either, nor is it something we invented. Hell, Shakespeare worked in this fashion, at least in all of his plays that I've ever seen or read. There is nothing primitive or childish about this, it is just an observation about style.

Now, to be clear, it is also a generalization, not an ironclad rule. To digress, I want to rant about a pet peeve of mine: Every time I generalize about something, someone almost inevitably feels the need to lecture me about why my generalization must not be true because it does not apply to them, or because they can rattle off a list of exceptions. Why do people do this?!?. Of course there are exceptions! Exceptions make life interesting. Exceptional people are usually my favorite people. They add spice to life, and are all kinds of fun. But exceptions do not disprove generalizations. Exceptions disprove stereotypes.

What's the difference between a generalization and a sterotype?

A generalization is a statement of how things generally work, what holds true a very great deal of the time. A stereotype is an attempt to apply a generalization in an inappropriate or inflexible way.

Just look at the following statements: The Irish are temperamental. The Scots are tight-fisted. Jews go in for accounting, law, medicine, artistry, and academia for their careers. Young guys get horny more often than young girls. Lesbians like softball. Minnesotans like lutefisk.

Every single one of these is a completely valid generalization. They become stereotypes when you try to apply them to every situation and person, when you make stupid assumptions about individuals based solely on those generalizations. If you look at a black guy you barely know, smile slyly, and say, "want some grape soda?" you're being an ass. A great big horse's ass, and I would be embarassed for you. But, if you run a convenience store in a black neighborhood, at least in Detroit, you'd be an idiot if you don't keep a lot of Faygo Grape in stock, because black people buy a lot of that stuff. (By the way, if you're black and you're not chuckling at the above, you need to loosen up. You know it's true.)

Generalizations don't need to be angrily challenged and struck down. What we should do is simply acknowledge them, with a little humor and humility--and bearing in mind that no generalization is ever true in all places and times. If we can get past that, then we can have all kinds of great discussions on why the generalization holds true, why there are exceptions, why the exceptions are interesting, why the generalization might change in different places and times. But the dismissive, "well this isn't true of me, therefore it is not true" attitude destroys a good conversation. Generalizations are not stereotypes, okay? They're rules of thumb, cultural markers, not God's Law About How Everything Always Is Or Should Be.

Generalizations are also lots of fun. So long as we keep them in perspective. Hey, I'm from Texas, and I gotta tell ya: don't mess with Texas. I'll hurt ya. (Hee!)

My, this is turning into a rather Den Bestian essay, isn't it? Well, digression over. Back to storytelling styles:

Americans tend to tell stories in an action-oriented fashion. Even our soap operas, our gentle romantic comedies, and our news reports are written this way. We set a scene, and then describe events and reactions.

This is not a primitive or crude or inferior or childish way of telling tales, by the way. Not at all. Like I said, almost all of Shakespeare's work was written in exactly the same fashion. Furthermore, most of the greatest movies in American cinema, all-time classics like Casablanca, It's A Wonderful Life, The Ten Commandments, Star Wars, The Dirty Dozen, or even Sleepless In Seattle were written just like this. It's just how we tend to see things, how we tend to think of the world.

If it was good enough for Shakespeare, it should be good enough for us, right?

But the Japanese (and other southeast Asian cultures--I just concentrate on Japan because I've seen a lot of Japanese cinema, read a lot of Japanese fiction) have a slightly different frame of reference. It is not alien, nor is it either superior or inferior. It is just different, in an interesting, thought-provoking way. Nor is it difficult to understand. Once you get it, you can appreciate their artistic works more. Furthermore, if you're a creative type, you can draw a good deal of inspiration from it.

So what is the difference? Japanese art tends to put more emphasis on being there rather than getting there. Being somewhere, rather than doing something. There's often a great deal more emphasis on setting a scene, and looking at the scene from different angles.

Especially in their more sophisticated, mature works.

Go watch Akira Kurasawa's all-time classic movie, The Seven Samurai. This is a great movie. In fact, it was so good, some Hollywood producers decided to buy it and turn it into another classic American movie, The Magnificent Seven. (Indeed, as a masculist, I think that Robert Blake has a sililoquy in there on what it is to be a man that I will one day write a long essay about. Men have gotten a horrible bum rap in this country for a very long time, and I'm tired of it. In that one short sililoquy he says more than I'll be able to in a thousand words. Powerful stuff. But, it's a subject for a different essay.)

Anyway, Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai is a great movie. From start to finish. But parts of it seem weird and a little hard to watch, to most Western eyes. There are scenes where we tend to just look and say, "what's going on?" Two Samurai are crouching toward each other, katana drawn. They're frozen, just staring at each other. At some point, they are going to charge, and one or both of them will likely be dead within seconds. But they just stare at each other. The camera flashes to one, then the other. Then to the faces of individual spectators. Then to the background, the skies, the fields. Nothing is happening. We're just being shown flashes of images surrounding the scene.

"What does the field have to do with anything? What do the blank expressions on these random people watching have to do with anything? What does the sky have to do with anything? Why is he showing us this stuff?"

The answer: Kurosawa is emphasizing being there over doing things. The experience of that moment. The scene itself is the important thing, and not what is happening. In fact, other than the psychological tension, nothing is happening. Kurosawa just wants you to feel what it was like to be in that moment.

Let's go back to my example above of the Japanese cartoon, where the hero is struck, and falls. What is the director trying to do with this weird sequence where the hero suddenly freezes in mid-fall, and we see the clock, the birds, the children, these conversations and events from our hero's past? What's happening here is something that has happened to all of us at one time or another: something startling and traumatic happens to you, and all of a sudden time seems to slow down, and the world closes in around you. You suddenly become hyper-aware of your surroundings, details like the clock ticking and the song playing on the radio, and, you start remembering things from your past that relate to this. It all happens in a flash. In just seconds you're flooded with all these impressions.

Well, it's happened to me anyway, and I'm pretty sure it must have happened to most of you at one time or another.

The Western style of storytelling has a hard time showing those moments. We want things to happen, and are confused when things aren't happening.

But the Japanese style has an easy time with this, for they like to put emphasis on the experience of being there in the moment.

The Japanese also like to show things from the perspective of the protagonist looking outward, rather than the experience of the audience watching the protagonist.

Once you get this, an awful lot of their artistic works crystallize for you, and it doesn't seem that odd at all. You just have to wrap your head around it.

So tell me, does that make sense? Do those of you who've watched anime, read manga, or seen some Japanese live action films, see what I'm talking about? Because I find it quite instructive and useful from a storytelling perspective, and I do draw inspiration from it.

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I enjoy Japanese culture, cinema, writing and history. I have for many, many years. One thing though:

I hated "Seven Samurai". I couldn't finish watching it. It would never get to the point. It just dragged and dragged. Now this is someone who has seen plenty of Japanese movies, both live action and anime. I don't know, "Seven Samurai" bored the heck out of me. My wife too. And she preformed Kurosawa playing in college and loved everything he did. She and I were geeked to finally sit donw and watch "Seven Samurai". But then we couldn't finish it and scratch our collective heads as to what everyone loved about it. "The ending is awesome!" they told us. Well isn't that perfect. I have to sit through the film, again, be bored out of my skull, to see this mythical ending. Forget it.

And I completely agree with Dean's assesment of the Western and Eastern storytelling method. I've appreciated both for a long time. Still hated "Seven Samurai". Can't like 'em all I guess.

Posted by Kevin D. on February 06, 2004 at 4:33 PM


I enjoyed Seven Samurai, but hey, horses for courses. I've been meaning to read Understanding Comics for some time now. Another good book, though more narrowly focused on the comics form itself, is Will Eisner's Comics and Sequential Art.

Posted by Ken Hall on February 06, 2004 at 4:42 PM


Yeah, I have a copy of Eisner's book. In Understanding Comics, Scott McCloud talks a whole lot about Eisner, and mentions that book more than once. Eisner also raved about how great McCloud's book was.

McCloud's book is far greater in scope than Eisner's though. That's not a cut on Eisner, who is a true genius, a hugely influential figure. McCloud's book is just far greater in scope, and touches on a huge number of issues that are not just useful for the comics writer, but are useful for almost any creative person.

Before you start arguing with me, just go read it. You won't be sorry, Ken. It's a hell of a book. ;-)

Posted by Dean Esmay on February 06, 2004 at 4:47 PM


How much of a huge entry do you have to read before you're allowed to comment?

Posted by Geoffrey on February 06, 2004 at 5:01 PM


Western literature is also mainly focused around "telling a story", in that, if something doesn't fit into the story, it gets cut out. In western literature and visual media (plays, TV, movies), everything happens for a reason. Some people have said it provides reassurance to us that everything in life also happens for reasons, even if we don't see it yet.
But Chinese literature and visual media doesn't usually focus that tightly on a story. They "tell stories" by a series of anecdotes, sometimes seemingly unconnected. Things that are incredibly important to the characters at one point might not be important an episode (or a few minutes later), might never be mentioned again. The story can skip months of time without warning or indication (except maybe hairstyles or weather). A single story in a TV program takes 10 hours to complete, but may cover 4-5 years of time...but usually isn't a story of character development or even a description of one event, but is merely a series of events that might tell you something about a person.
Now that I think about it, western literature is often focused on change, on development, on realization. Chinese literature is focused on revealing the true nature. Things don't change, you just get to know them better over time and event.
Most westerners end up scratching their heads over Chinese TV serials and books, but not in the same way they do over Japanese.
Chinese humor, however, is incredibly similar to US humor. But in my experience, Chinese people just don't get British humor at all...

Posted by nathan on February 06, 2004 at 5:17 PM


I imagine one could comment not having read the post at all. A more proper question would probably, "How much of a post can you read before you can comment intelligently?" :P

I imagine a telepath could see only the title and yet be able to give a good response. I usually read the whole thing, and hope I haven't embarrassed myself too much. Some trolls read all of it, don't understand a word of it, and then proceed to make idiots of themselves in the comments. :-)

Posted by Kacie on February 06, 2004 at 5:19 PM


Great article.

Random thoughts:

1) Lutefisk?
2) Grape soda?
3) I grew up watching AstroBoy and Tobor, the Eighth Man (or 8 Man). I can dig it.
4) I've found that Western culture pretty much assumes that books are about depth and movies are about action. There are, of course, exceptions.
5) Method actors talk about being "in the moment." Discuss.

Posted by Ara Rubyan on February 06, 2004 at 5:20 PM


Ooops. Excuse me for the error...

The link to Astroboy is here, or if you prefer, here.

Check it out.

Posted by Ara Rubyan on February 06, 2004 at 5:25 PM


Ara:

1) Lutefisk: A Scandinavian delicacy that is quite popular in Minnesota, northern Wisconsin, and the Dakotas. You take some dried fish, like herring, and soak it in lye for about a week. Then eat it.

Not as weird as it sounds. Grits are made much the same way. To make good grits, you soak corn in lye, then grind it up and cook it.

2) Grape soda: You don't know this, Detroit Boy? Go to any large party thrown by black folks in Detroit or Inkster or anyplace like that. The Faygo Grape will be there. Guaranteed. Ditto any convenience store in a black neighborhood around here.

Hey, Poles like their vodka. Nothing weird about saying so, unless you make stupid assumptions about every Pole you meet.

No quibble on any of the rest. ;-)

Posted by Dean Esmay on February 06, 2004 at 5:42 PM


It occurs to me that language is the root of such difference. Different languages means different conceptual maps of the world.

Posted by Dodd on February 06, 2004 at 6:49 PM


Dean: This is profound. This is what Spengler said about these two cultures.
China and Japan have as their Prime Symbol, their underlying leitmotif, the sinuous, gently winding, wandering path. That is reflected in their philosophy, their statecraft, their painting, their architecture their gardening (this being the one high culture that elevated the garden into a supremrly symbolic art).
The Prime Symbol of the West, of which America is such an exemplar, is the drive into the distance, the striving for infinity, restless energy. This is reflected in our politics, in our architecture (from the cathedral to the skyscraper), our painting, our music, our religious strife, our exploration (from the Vikings to the exploration of the furthest reaches of space).
No wonder that this difference between our cultures is reflected also in the telling of a story.



After years of hearing old school comics fans grump about how they "don't get" manga, it's a pleasure to read an accurate assessment from someone who made the effort to break loose from the rut of "storytelling as usual."

Posted by Toren on February 07, 2004 at 3:42 AM


"But Chinese literature and visual media doesn't usually focus that tightly on a story."

Really, nathan? Fascinating. I know little Chinese literature beyond what you have to learn to understand the Japanese classics. But to me, it always seems very linear. Or maybe not linear, exactly, but it goes somewhere: even if the events seem disconnected and random as you move pokily through the story, there's eventually a technical climax, and everything devolves from there. The connections between episodes in Japanese fiction really often are you-get-it-or-you-don't propositions, and only the fact that you're running out of pages tells you you're getting to the end.

Now if only the Japanese didn't bring their love of being in the moment, the hidden essence, and the paradoxes of the universe into their balance sheet writing and investing....

Posted by Sean Kinsell on February 07, 2004 at 5:11 AM


"The Irish are temperamental"???????

I AM NOT TEMPERAMENTAL!!

YEEEEAAARGHHHH....

(smashes beer bottle over her red head...and then bursts into inappropriate laughter - which then, suddenly, turns into stormy tears)

Posted by red on February 07, 2004 at 9:16 AM


No, but seriously here -

I am not familiar with Japanese action films - but I have noticed what you are talking about in other film-makers - some European, some not, some American. It is - jarring at first, because yes, you do wait for "the story" - but once you succumb to it (if they're a good film-maker, I mean, and not just being self-indulgent) - it can be some of the most moving profound film-watching experiences you've ever had.

Cassavetes' films strike me that way. He doesn't so much go for the visual effects - but in his films - scenes start in the middle of huge arguments, and then everything trails away inexplicably (as often happens in real life, obviously! In real life people don't have neat little beginning-middle-end arguments in one scene, like they do so often in films). In Cassavetes' films, characters do things that are confusing - and it is not explained. You, as the audience member, are left to puzzle it out. "Why did she do that? Why did he start crying then? Where did that kiss come from?"

Things that look like accidents happen - stuff that would be edited out of more linear-time films. People spill things, randomly (the spaghetti scene in Woman under the Influence - amazing) - People trip, are allowed to look clumsy. We see human beings, essentially - in all their flawed beauty - going through something up on the screen.

They are THRILLING films to watch - because of this lack of explanatory style.

Great essay, Dean. Thanks

Posted by red on February 07, 2004 at 9:24 AM


Worth reading for the distinction between stereotypes and generalizations. My three siblings, all more in touch with our Jewish background than myself, went into medicine, artistry, and academia for their careers. I've moved from industrial blacksmithing to computer hardware, but I'm still blue collar.

Generalizations turn into stereotypes when people lock in conclusions from limited data samples. That grape soda thing does not hold true in Milwaukee, and I didn't notice it in Chicago. It may in fact be local to DEE-troit.

Posted by triticale on February 07, 2004 at 9:46 AM


One thing nobody has mentioned yet is the fact that Asian (and especially Japanese) cultures tend to be pretty introverted overall, while America, and many other Western cultures, are rather extroverted overall. A lot of Japanese art is inner-focused, hence the view from the protagonist described in the article; we're seeing his view of himself and his surroundings, his inner perspective.

I also wonder how much Buddhist thought ties into this? I'm a Christian, but my fascination with Japanese culture has led me to study a little of Buddhism, and the focus on finding "the oneness of being" (that's my possibly not-fully-informed interpretation of what I understand about Buddhism), the focus on digging deep enough into yourself to "transcend" the mundane life, seems to feed into this, too. Just a thought.

Posted by Aaron W. Thorne on February 07, 2004 at 11:49 AM


 



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