More like "fists begin to fly."

Now Dean, you know that's not what he good doctor said.

P6 is right, Dr. Dean said that even with his endorsement, it was unlikely that most of his supporters would vote for another democratic candidate for president.

He didn't even suggest that he wouldn't endorse the other Dem's. Just that it wouldn't do any good.

But the guy is clearly wrapped up in himself. It's all about Dean and his personality, not about any particular issues.

It's all about Dean and his personality, not about any particular issues.

And this is different from any other Presidential campaign how?

You also have to remember that Dean is a Doctor. That should give you an idea about where his personality is coming from. He is no more arrogant than my internist. I'll bet that his handwriting is unreadable as well.

Gary:

It isn't all that different than most other candidates. Except in this sense: most voters know that anybody seriously running for President would probably sell his first-born child to the Devil in exchange for winning the Presidency.

But most voters aren't going to vote for a candidate who openly says so, and goes on to mention that he's already in ngotiations with representatives from Hell.

"Give me the nomination or the donkey gets it!"

I've been watching Dean for a while. As long as things go HIS way, things are fine. But when you look at how he's acting in a slightly adverse climate (and don't tell me that he's not going to get 20 times worse if he makes it to the nomination), you've got to ask yourself two questions.

1. Is THIS statesman material? The whining, the pleading with the DNC head to make all those nasty people who don't agree with him stop, the tacit threat to take all his supporters and go home? Is THIS the sort of man you'd want running the country, where the pressures are incalcuably greater and the results of mistakes incalcuably worse? Who's he going to whine to for help if the US has another 9/11 on his watch?

and...

2. Is THIS the actions of someone who will get respect for the US on the world stage?

I don't know. To me, he just isn't Presidential material. At least, not that I'm able to discern. I've looked over his campaign materials, I've examined his platform, I'm watching him in the news... and I'm not terribly impressed with what I'm seeing. The more I watch, the more I see that anyone can RUN for President - but that doesn't mean they SHOULD.

J.

Umm, did you even bother to read the article Dean? Or were to just too quick to attack Dr. Dean to bother?

Oh, look, a troll who doesn't even have the gonads to leave an email address! Lovely.

What P6 and Micheal don't address is the obvious fact that Howard Dean folds under pressure quite easily: what did he think was going to happen once Gore endorsed him, anyway? Did he expect all the other would-be nominees to gather 'round, chanting "Khum-ba-ya?"

This is politics; American politics, and sooner or later (as Ara pointed out), it's bare-knuckle time. If you can't play with the big dogs, stay on the porch. All Dean has managed so far is whining to the DNC chairman that the other candidates aren't "playing fair" (i.e. agreeing with Dean).

What's next? He's going to take his bat and his ball and go home?

I'm really beginning to wonder about that man. Seriously. It's nearly a whole year before the election, and he's already whining about the pressure. Does he think (IF he gets elected) it's gonna get any easier in DC?

Let's remember that he was the governor of a state that doesn't even hold the same number of people as Memphis, Tennessee... This is experience?

I have to say I really like the latest shot from the Lieberman campaign: "Howard Dean complaining about other Democrats questioning his record, experience, general election viability and numerous misstatements is like the mad cow calling the herd rabid." Ouch!

I can see the convention now: the same guy who MCs for the WWW comes out and bellows "Are you ready to RUMMMMBBBBLLLLE!!?"

The gloves are coming off...

Heh...

Actually, one of H. Dean's sole good qualities it the emnity between him and McAwfull.

The commetns at DU on this are very interesting.

To give them credit (which I am normally loathe to do), some are genuinely turned off by this attempt at Party control.

Are we talking about Howard Dean or Dean Esmay? I get so lost when these discussions involve more than one guy named Dean.

(I had the same problem some years back when Tony Danza was still trying to act. It seems all the characters he plays are named Tony. btw, who was the boss?)

What do the two Deans have in common? They both used to be Democrats! (ba-dum-ba - rim shot)

Q: How can you tell the difference between Howard Dean and Dean Esmay?

A: One's a pseudo-intellectual with a giant ego and a sick twisted bunch of radical followers, the other guy is running for president.

Ah, Dean, you know I love you man. Just bringing out some lame jokes.

I've thought the same thing about Howard Dean, i.e., that he isn't really statesman material. I mean, is he going to roll up his sleeves and get angry at Kofi Annan, or the leader of China or something?
His whole schtick is based on being very angry about things, particularly President Bush. So what happens if he beats Bush? How do you have an administration based on being angry at a former President? Cuz that's all his campaign is about...

In related news, when I look at Kerry, I just can't imagine him being our president. He just doesn't look like a president at all. That's not a reason to not vote for him, of course...but luckily, there are plenty of other reasons.