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April 10, 2003

Sarcasm

In a recent thread, several people have taken it upon themselves to explain to me how a fellow named Dean Allen is the master of an obscure literary form of which I had previously been unaware, known by the peculiar term "sarcasm." Upon looking it up in the dictionary, I was aghast. I, a student of letters, had never heard of such an adroit literary construct! It seems almost a form of poetry, although not quite. I'm not sure I've got a handle on it just yet, but I am trying, and I hope they'll be patient with me.

Said caring individuals have further let me know that Mr. Allen, while he may have said several things that a neanderthal such as myself might take to be insulting, was merely practicing this very same high art form! Indeed, it appears that I (along with some of my troglodyte readers) would do well to appreciate the subtleties inherent in this genre of literary endeavor. Insulting? Surely not. No, it's just sarcasm you see!

I want to let it be known that I find it deeply moving when people take time from their busy lives to explain to me about how things like sarcasm work. I shall take these caring and thoughtful missives to heart. A humble naif such as myself obviously has much to learn. I can only hope to study at the feet of the great masters, knowing as little about it as I do.

It is, truly, so moving that I fairly well weep with joy. The cynics of the world are wrong. Wrong I say! Humanity once again proves that, as awful as the world may be, kind and generous souls still exist.

Or, to put it another way: You like me! You really, really like me!

I am humbled.

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Sir,
Correcting ignorance in the young is the job of every civilized man and woman. It is, indeed, humbling to be in the presence (even virtually) of so many who take it upon themselves to correct such ignorance. I salute you, sir! It takes a special kind of man to bring out the best in people...

Posted by Andrew Cory on April 10, 2003 at 1:16 AM


But, the thing is, you DID wander blindly past some pretty obvious sarcasm.

Now you're like Boothe jumping from the theater balcony a second time, to show he "meant" to do it.

Not going very well for you, this.

Posted by Edwin Anderton on April 10, 2003 at 2:21 AM


Boy, you people don't give up, do you? Shut up, Edwin. Why should we listen to someone who can't even spell "Anderson"? (There -- that's an example the sort of preadolescent "sarcasm" Mr. Allen was engaging in. It's no wonder an adult missed it -- grown-ups don't usually pay attention to such pulings.)

As for Mr. Allen, he's going in my Dave Winer Idiot Web Savant list.

Posted by Andrea Harris on April 10, 2003 at 2:48 AM


Dean Esmay:

Just admit it, dude. You stole the idea of sarcasm from Dean Allen.

Posted by IB Bill on April 10, 2003 at 4:40 AM


Dean:

Yeah, right.

Posted by Ara Rubyan on April 10, 2003 at 7:52 AM


at least you went out of your way to prove you got the joke, dean.

andrea seems hell-bent on telling the world she didn't... ;)

Posted by claire on April 10, 2003 at 8:10 AM


Why is everyone writing to Dean? He didn't write the post and hasn't commented on it. Or is that more sarcasm?

Posted by Aaron W. Thorne on April 10, 2003 at 8:48 AM


Dangit, I wasn't quite ready for irony this early in the morning...

Posted by Robert Bauer on April 10, 2003 at 9:41 AM


You see? Each day I learn something more about this amazing art form. Apparently, the way you express sarcasm is that you burst into the comments of someone's weblog, call him a liar, demonstrate that you know nothing about how internet search engines work, insult him in a half-dozen other subtle ways, and then say he just doesn't understand your little joke when he responds.

It's an amazing art form. I am taking notes, Mr. Anderton. I deeply appreciate learned masters such as yourself taking the time to help this poor student along.

Posted by Dean Esmay on April 10, 2003 at 9:54 AM


Snarky fun. This is what blogging is all about.

Posted by zombyboy on April 10, 2003 at 11:50 AM


Oh, I 'get' the 'joke,' 'Claire.'

Posted by Andrea Harris on April 10, 2003 at 12:26 PM


Rose:

"Sorry." I didn't "read" the "fine" print.

Posted by Ara Rubyan on April 10, 2003 at 12:55 PM


Ara:

"What" are "you" talking "about"?

Posted by Rosemary Esmay on April 10, 2003 at 4:17 PM


Andrea:

Nobody that has ever read you doubts that you 'get' it? Noway baby!

You are the Queen of "getting" it.

DO YOU PEOPLE HEAR ME???

SHE'S the Damn Queen of GETTING IT!!!!!

Okay?

Posted by Rosemary Esmay on April 10, 2003 at 4:21 PM


Rose:

I thought "Dean" wrote this "post," not "you."

Ara

P.S. If I was having any more fun I'd have to be twins.

Posted by Ara Rubyan on April 10, 2003 at 6:13 PM


"LOL"

Posted by Trinity on April 10, 2003 at 6:39 PM


I learned something about sarcasm a while back...

"Sarcasm is an expression of anger that you don't take responsibility for."

... and I have had to work really hard at getting over the bad habit of being extremely sarcastic.

Now, when I feel anger towards someone, I just tell them what I'm pissed about, flip them the finger and move on.

No evasions about their looks or writing style, just:
"Hey, You're stupid and I want to smash your head!"

I feel so much better about myself, having taken responsibility for my feelings.

Can I get a hug?

Posted by Mike S on April 10, 2003 at 7:26 PM


We love you Mike! [hugs]

That will be $10 please.

Posted by Dean Esmay on April 10, 2003 at 7:42 PM


ARA:

"DEAN" "DID" "WRITE" "THIS".

He just logged in as me - probably "accidently".

Posted by Rosemary Esmay on April 10, 2003 at 9:05 PM


"Crap." I only just noticed that I'd "made" that mistake. "How" did I do "that?"

That's what "happens" when you're both "using" the same "computer."

Can we "stop" this "now?"

"Dean."

Posted by Dean Esmay on April 10, 2003 at 9:53 PM


Only "if" we "have" to...

Party "pooper"

Posted by Rosemary Esmay on April 10, 2003 at 10:46 PM


"!"

Posted by Ben Darlow on April 11, 2003 at 1:46 AM


Rose: so Andrea is the "queen of GETTING IT".

Don't you think that's rather a personal thing to share on the Web?

Posted by Casey Tompkins on April 11, 2003 at 4:09 AM


"""I T"h"ink""" "Th"at"" on"e """ of "the"""'''"
the K"ey"s on"" my """keyboard """ is Stu""ck"".
P"leas"e"""" don"'"t "mi"s""""construe" the" m""eaning"" of my ""post""

Posted by Rodney Dill on April 11, 2003 at 7:36 AM


Mike S --

Your insight on sarcasm was enlightening. No, really!

:^)

It reminded me of a story I think I read once in the Reader's Digest (remember them?) Anyway an English professor is giving a lecture and points out that, in English grammer, a double negative denotes a postive. However a double positive does not denote a negative, to which one of his students replied, "Yeah, right."

Posted by Ara Rubyan on April 11, 2003 at 8:29 AM


no, No, NO! Have pity on me, please!

I can't take anymore sarcasm!!!

What's next? IRONY?? (gasp...)

Posted by Casey Tompkins on April 11, 2003 at 11:50 AM


Casey:

We are Women - Hear us roar or moan or fake it or bitch about it - whatever...

or should I say "whatever"

Posted by Rosemary Esmay on April 11, 2003 at 4:22 PM


Unless I'm missing a bizarrely americanised form of humour here, the above is more a literary hatchet-job. I suggest you find a better dictionary.

Posted by Kev on April 14, 2003 at 8:30 PM


 



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