This big, fat no-talent jerk has the nerve to falsely misrepresent the majority of us citizens to the PRESIDENT. So, I decided to pick apart his arguments since, sadly, I can't pick apart his smelly carcass.
To those of you in the "Namecalling dilutes/weakens your arguments school" I have a few thing to say to you:
1. No, it doesn't
2. I like calling a spade a spade or in this case a dickweed a dickweed...
3. No, it doesn't
4. I am exercising my right to free speech
5. I LOVE PROFANITY - I'm a big believer in the proper use of Fuck You
Now onto MY show!!!!
A Letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush on the Eve of War
Dear Governor Bush:
So today is what you call "the moment of truth," the day that "France and the rest of world have to show their cards on the table." I'm glad to hear that this day has finally arrived. Because, I gotta tell ya, having survived 440 days of your lying and conniving, I wasn't sure if I could take much more. So I'm glad to hear that today is Truth Day, 'cause I got a few truths I would like to share with you:
I'm gonna start with pointing the sheer disrespect for the Office of the President and 50% of Americans by not addressing our POTUS properly. What is it with leftys? They are the sorest LOSERS. Hey, when Clinton in won 92' and in 96' conservatives didn't disrespect the Office of the President (B.J. Clinton did that himself).
Moment of truth. Do you believe for a moment the Moore knows what being truthful means? Bush has lied and connived for 440 days. Shit man, the way you tell it Bill Clinton is still in office...
It is easy to see why Moore confuses truth and lies. People tell him he's talented - he WANTS to believe it so it must be true. WRONG. It's a LIE!
FACT: Moore is a one hit wonder. He is basically just a fat, stupid and hideously racist lefty.
People tell him the Clinton scandal was just about sex. Clinton was a lefty God so it must be true. WRONG. It's a LIE!
FACT: Perjury is a crime. Even in a civil suit. People actually go to jail for perjury. Clinton lied. He deserved impeachment. He deserved acquittal. Yes, he was persued by the other side. What president ISN'T? Reagan?Bush?Nixon?...Carter? Oh, he wasn't really persued by Republicans was he?.
Just because he's YOUR guy doesn't give you the right to amnesia.
Grow up Dickweed !
People tell him that the Supreme Court selected the President. Well, since THEIR choice was Bush not Gore it must be true. WRONG. It's a LIE!
FACT: AFTER 100'S OF RECOUNTS BUSH STILL WON FLORIDA!!!!!!!!!!!! THE SUPREME COURT STOPPED THE ILLEGAL ACTION OF THE FLORIDA SUPREME COURT. HAD GORE BECOME PRESIDENT NOT ONLY WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN WRONG...BUT WE'D BE KISSING OUR ASSES GOODBYE RIGHT NOW!
ASSHAT!
Sorry for yelling but sometimes you have to scream over the very childish fingers in the ears - "I can't hear you chants". Fuck it. I'm not really sorry I actually like yelling.
1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox News aside) who is gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one. Walk out of the White House and on to any street in America and try to find five people who are PASSIONATE about wanting to kill Iraqis. YOU WON'T FIND THEM!
This asswipe is missing something a little bit larger. No human actually WANTS war. But sometimes grownups have to do unpopular things to protect life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness that people, like that fatass Mikey Moore, enjoy. As a side benefit, Iraq will be liberated and the Butcher killed. Jerkoff I can name five people in my family that want Saddam dead. 'Course it might help if you actually lived under a little tyrrany to appreciate what you have. You Selfish Fuckwad.
Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No Iraqi has even threatened to do that. You see, this is how we average Americans think: If a certain so-and-so is not perceived as a threat to our lives, then, believe it or not, we don't want to kill him! Funny how that works!
When Bill Clinton lobbed some bombs at Iraq in 1999, without U.N. permission, where were YOU? I don't remember hearing your cries for the innocent civillians. Did you learn any of the lessons of WWII and Hitler. How many people could have survived the train ride to Aushwitz had we decided that although the Germans did nothing to us - maybe we should help out? By the way, asshole, Osama didn't PERSONALLY do anything to us either...remember that! If he did - he'd already be dead. I'm really glad that our President isn't such a PUSSY!
2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you -- are not fooled by your weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real issues are that affect our daily lives -- and none of them begin with I or end in Q.
I actually feel sorry for you dude. For 8 long years, the majority of Americans called President a man they didn't vote to elect. In 92', about 57% of Americans voted for someone other than Clinton. In 96', it was about 51% that voted for the other candidates.
I think the real problem with you, Mr. Moore, and your ilk is that the letters I.Q. have nothing to do with your everyday life - just as you said. Man what a fucking moron.
Here's what threatens us: two and a half million jobs lost since you took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs almost two dollars -- the list goes on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve.
Yeah, like he personally fired those people. The falsely bloated economy was crashing before he was elected and when he pointed it out you all cried that he was scaring us. When it happened you said it was because he said it was happening. Like he was so fucking powerful. Retirement funds? Fatfuck you are in no need of retirement funds - you are an elitist rich asshole. Hearing you cry about money and poor people is like hearing Ted Kennedy leading a M.A.D.D. rally. You are tedious.
3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a popularity contest with Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against you, Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans among them.
Yeah, Bill Maher the Left's version of E.F. Hutton.
That speaks volumes about France, Germany, Russia and China not Bush.
The problem is that you are too stupid to understand that 4 countries does not the whole world make. I know that to you they are the most important and I'll tell you why: Socialist, Social Democrats, Communists/Socialists and Communists... See things clearly now. Probably not. Low I.Q. is a major hinderance to understanding.
4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope! But even worse, the Dixie Chicks have now come out against you!
So, NOW it's okay for religion and politics to be mingling. When it suits YOU it's O.K. - I got it. Nevermind, you think that it's worse when a fellow entertainer comes out against Bush. At least you have your priorities straight!
How bad does it have to get before you realize that you are an army of one on this war? Of course, this is a war you personally won't have to fight. Just like when you went AWOL while the poor were shipped to Vietnam in your place.
When does 45 =1? When a fat, talentless loser does the math.AWOL, eh? Clinton was poor and he ran like a scared rabbit when the call came too! Enough already! Mikey - where were you during our many conflicts? Eating twinkies?
5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South Dakota) has an enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! If you really want to stand up for America, please send your twin daughters over to Kuwait right now and let them don their chemical warfare suits. And let's see every member of Congress with a child of military age also sacrifice their kids for this war effort. What's that you say? You don't THINK so? Well, hey, guess what -- we don't think so either!
Please spare me. Even if we re-instated the draft we DON'T draft GIRLS - Dumb Fuck! Most of America would have a fucking fit if we tried. Except, of course, Nazi's like NOW. When Charlie Rangle came up with that brainstorm - I thought what a stupid fucking idea. I still do. A voluntary military is a better military. By the way, Mikey - you got kids? I didn't think so.
6. Finally, we love France. Yes, they have pulled some royal screw-ups. Yes, some of them can be pretty damn annoying. But have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country known as America if it weren't for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War that won it for us? That our greatest thinkers and founding fathers -- Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, etc. -- spent many years in Paris where they refined the concepts that lead to our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution? That it was France who gave us our Statue of Liberty, a Frenchman who built the Chevrolet, and a pair of French brothers who invented the movies?
Forgotten? No, perhaps that is why we LIBERATED them from Germany in WWII.
Debt paid.
And now they are doing what only a good friend can do -- tell you the truth about yourself, straight, no b.s. Quit pissing on the French and thank them for getting it right for once. You know, you really should have traveled more (like once) before you took over. Your ignorance of the world has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a corner you can't get out of.
What they are doing now is saving their own ass. They have helped a madman. And, just like you and your ilk are continuing to help a madman. They are fucking themselves into a corner and the world (outside of those 4 countries) knows it. It is your ignaorance that makes us all look stupid. So shut your stupid fat mouth and enjoy the freedoms that you are too much of a pussy to fight to protect. I just hope that when Iraq is free they remember who wanted us to leave Saddam in place.
Well, cheer up -- there IS good news. If you do go through with this war, more than likely it will be over soon because I'm guessing there aren't a lot of Iraqis willing to lay down their lives to protect Saddam Hussein. After you "win" the war, you will enjoy a huge bump in the popularity polls as everyone loves a winner -- and who doesn't like to see a good ass-whoopin' every now and then (especially when it 's some third world ass!). So try your best to ride this victory all the way to next year's election. Of course, that's still a long ways away, so we'll all get to have a good hardy-har-har while we watch the economy sink even further down the toilet!
Actually, dickhead the news is even better. After we win this war. Iraq will be free. N.Korea will think twice about fucking with the U.S.. Iran just might fall because the students will get our help and most of the ME will realize that we aren't a bunch of fat, lazy pussies.
GWB will get a bump in the polls - not that he needs it. Most people actually like him because they feel he is honest and has integrity. Something that the Office of President has been sorely lacking. The economy will recover because it always does - so will the stock market. If we are really lucky Social Security will get properly reformed. So lackluster, idealess candidates won't be able to scare old people into voting for Democrats.
But, hey, who knows -- maybe you'll find Osama a few days before the election! See, start thinking like THAT! Keep hope alive! Kill Iraqis -- they got our oil!!
Yours,
Michael Moore
When all your arguments are exposed as totally inane and stupid remember the favorite standby: "It's about OIIIIIIL" . Is life really that simple? Can it all be reduced to one line talking points? Yes, but only if you are a SIMPLETON!
Mikey,
Tell Santa, The Easter Bunny and Noam Chomsky that I said hello, okay?
IMPORTANT: Before I totally forget FUCK YOU!
don't waste your energy on michael moore. life is too short.
Don't hold back tell us how you really feel ...
I don't disagree with any thing you said about Michael Moore-on. Though I don't think I would waste my breath on such an obvious idiot. It concerns me far more when someone like Daschle slams Dubya's foreign policy while neglecting to mention that Hill Billy Boys almost total abdication in that area for eight years exacerbated the problems we have today.
Rodney Dill
Dilution.
I just wanted to say... you rock!!!! lol, I couldn't have said it better myself!!!
Moore actually has a daughter, of whom he has said "she is not a social experiment." Social experiments are okay for poor people and conservatives, though.
historically, our stock market is ALWAYS higher a year after a war.
So let's see, the Iraqi's will be liberated, thie WMD will be destroyed or otherwise controlled, our economy will be doing better and the ME will start having second thoughts about fucking us over so much.
Multitasking at its finest!
Wasting a perfectly good feral rant on Michael Moore is like debasing currency :)
There is a certain point where you do realize that picking on people on the extreme ends is, well, not pointless exactly. But easy.
On the flip side, if someone doesn't bother doing it, then it makes it seem like people are "ignoring" the "voice crying out in the wilderness."
I think Rose would get along well with Rachel Lucas. Although, unlike my wife, Rachel is not a Republican. :-)
michael moore is a big fat idiot with an oscar.
I'm just saying.
I take his oscar as merely being confirmation of his idiocy.
If Moore had the barest scintilla of sense, he'd surrender to Rosemary right now, before she REALLY gets angry! WOO! You GO girl! ^_^
Seriously, I disagree with the others that your ire is misplaced on Moore. On the contrary, I think that your reaction is likely to be the reaction of people all across the U.S. when they see what this waste of human skin (and boy is that a LOT of waste, there...) said at the Oscars.
But I don't want him to shut up. Oh no...
The more people like him and the Dixie Chicks and Martin Sheen shoot their mouths off in public, the more people see these people for the absolute losers that they really are. They do their "cause" more harm than anything you or I could possibly think up.
Still, nothing like a finely honed RANT to clear out the soul. A fine thing to see indeed. A thing of stark, devastating and precise beauty. Rather like a Tomahawk Cruise missile, actually. ^_^
Michael moore is Fat and wrong.
read this;
http://www.threequestionmarks.com/MichaelMoore.html
The Michael Moores, Susan Sarandons, Tim Robbins, Martin Sheens and others of the Hollywood world have proven to be enemies of the United States in wartime. But there is no sense making martyrs of them.
But there is one and only one way to shut them up. Boycott them. Do not pay to see films or rent videotapes/DVDs in which they appear or which they made. Do not view their them on TV, as they play at being president, or whatever.
In a free society such as the United States, the market alone determinations what survives and what does not. This includes ideas, and it certainly includes entertainment personalities.
This is a policy that I actively practice. But with determination rather than vindictiveness. I don't watch much television, anyway, so it has always been easy to avoid 'president Bartlett', or whatever the screenwriters call him.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
>> while neglecting to mention that Hill Billy Boys almost total abdication in that area for eight years exacerbated the problems we have today.
Rodney,
That requires too much understanding of history for Democrats, maybe most Americans also, to ever think of admitting such.
I really cannot disagree with Rosemary. Michael Moore really is a dumbass college dropout.
This is fantastic. This made my day better. This just turned my Monday around and made me feel so good I can't even thank you enough.
Can't you get on Larry King or something? Why can't they ever put us "Joe's" (and Jen's) on there and then invite this fatass Moore and let us regular American's have a crack.
I'm tired of the "experts." People like us--we are the real experts. We are the experts on losing retirement nest eggs. We are the experts on daily American life. We are the experts with the real experience--I can't find five Americans near me who are unsupportive of the President--and I am a registered Democrat, living in California no less!!
I did e-mail this fat bastard, but I was far less enthusiastic than you--I kept it short and simple to increse the chance of his comprehension...I just couldn't resist the opportunity to take a minute to let him know he was wrong, at least by one American.
I SOOOO hope he becomes aware of your post! This site is great, by the way--my first visit but definitely not my last.
Hey Rose,
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As per your last comments on Actors, Arnold, I like one of the Comments from Thomas Sowell's last column.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell1.asp
"Why do actors -- people whose main talent is faking emotions -- think that their opinions should be directing the course of political events in the real world? Yet it is a mistake that they have been making as far back as John Wilkes Booth. "
I'd also like to add Streisand to your hit list.
I'm from Flint, Mi. So are many other good people......Michael Moore is not among them.
Rodney,
Good call. I have had the pleasure of reading professor Thomas Sowell's "Vision of the Anointed". If the left lobe of my brain had been properly engaged with the right lobe earlier today, I might have remembered to cast my comments from what he once conceptualized about America's liberal elites in that book.
I forgot all about Barbara Streisand. Drat! That's what comes from ignoring the popular media. Is she still alive?
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
Granted, Moore has not a shred of credibility along with much of the anti-Bush Hollywood crowd. Sure they can't take a loss to Bush, but trashing Clinton was nearly as thoughtless as Moore railing on Bush. Remember, daddy Bush and previous administrations left us this mess we call Iraq.... while I agree that Pres. Bush is genuine in his motives to liberate the Iraqi people and rid the world of Saddam Hussein, is he going to be concerned with liberating and rebuilding sub-saharan Africa from its warlords and dictators next? I doubt it...no economic interests there huh? oh, well, business as usual...the Bush administration will take care of Hussein, and most of the American people will thank him. And, hopefully, we will elect another Democrat that is capable of properly running the nation. Slam BJ Clinton all you like, HE ROCKED THE WHITE HOUSE!!
Tim
Tim
I mostly agree with you. BJ Clinton was a pretty good prez - I mean he passed 90% of the Republican agenda. And he had the DNC salivating and asking for more. I don't fault him there. I do think that he is a morally bankrupt pig, though.
That is just my opinion.
But truth be told - it isn't a slam if it's true DUDE!
I don't fault him for rocking the White House.
I fault him for GETTING HIS ROCKS OFF IN the White House! (Oval office to be specific)
wow! dude calm the fuck down.
Sometimes I believe that Mike Moore, and other pseudo-intellectual liberals, running his mouth is one of the best things that can happen to the conservative movement.
Mr. Moore, Sadaam Hussein is a murdering oppressive bastard, do you think he bowled in High School as well?
I don't think Moore can understand anything about the economy. I wonder if he ever thought about companies like Enron and Worldcom. The false accounting went on during his savior Bill Clinton's time in office and Bush is now paying the price when the news came out. Why invest in the stock market when you can't trust the financial information that we have always assumed are true? Maybe 9/11 had a little something for the economy heading south? I am certainly not an economist, but he and most democrats lack logic. If I can get it,people supposedly alot smarter than me should get it! His life is based on being anti everything. Nice life huh?
i hate you mr. bush & fuck you !!!
mr. moore is a great man realy
bush hält sich nicht an bündnisse, er übergeht die uno + nato
he makes media manipulation
no war, pease for all...
ich will keinen 3.weltkrieg bloss weil euer big idiot arogant und incompetent ist. stop him or war
artist david (van) braun from germany
Just one comment or maybe more:
The Chevrolet brothers were not French, they were from Switzerland. Just one more fact this ill mannered, straggly bearded imbecile misused to pour out his vitriolic anti-American drivel.
Why is it these so-called anti-war protesters were silent during Clinton's tenure when he sent troops to Somalia without sufficient assets to fight the war lords. Did they present a threat to America? Not one of these protesters said anything to our incursions into Bosnia and Kosovo. Was Serbia a threat to our country? These moral cripples are anti-Bush, not anti-war. The sooner they come straight with the majority of Americans who support our president and our troops, the better. Incidentally, why aren't we inforcing our laws on sedition and rebellion. I hope Michael Moore spend a long time in the trunk of his limo. Thanks Teamsters!
David van Braun:
Deutschland und Frankreich handelt wie Kinder. Sie wollen UN Strafmaßnahmen nicht durchsetzen, weil sie Machen von üblen Dingen mit Irak gefangen werden werden.
Fuck Sie, fuck Deutschland und fuck Frankreich.
Aufrichtig,
Rosemary Esmay
Isn't it funny how people whose job is to pretend seem to think they have something more important to say to we in the "unwashed masses". Perhaps if these folks were exposed for the frauds that they are or if we were to look at the qualifications of those who expound such opinions, perhaps they would not hold sway over the public as much as they do.
Just one point: Clinton was really, really, not a lefty god. Trust me on this one. The man gave a bad name to liberalism, considering he was a republican pretending to be a democrat. I was as much a critic of his administration as I am of the current one.
Rosemary Esmay
why?
ist doch kein wunder das ihr amerikaner bzw. andere so denkt. und warum weil eure medien nicht die warheit erzählen.
mr. bush is not better as sadamm
findet einen anderen weg, denn dieser weg den ihr geht ist falsch und führt zum aufstand anderer staaten.
clinton was nice (realy), bush is stupid, idiot & arogant ... und macht euch amerikaner zu einem neuem ziel.
he makes problems all over the world. thats not good i hate him.
wist ihr am 11.september wahren wir nicht alle amerikaner? ob deutsche, franzosen ect. wir haben mitgelitten und jetzt tut ihr einfach was entscheiden was unrecht ist und zu einem schlimmeren ergebnis führt als der jetzige langsame krieg. oh jaaaaaaa
dave this is my realy message
david(van)braun,
I don't speak German so I'll just lay it out for in good 'ol english. If you like Mikey boy, then you can have him. He's disgrace to this country...the greatest country on the face of the earth. You pricks in Europe resent us for our power and wealth. Well, get over it! The majority support this president and support ousting Saddam. To take your lame advice we would allow the Iraqi people to stay brutalized. That may be ok for you Germans, but it is not ok for the good people of the US. I know you guys are used to brutal dictators, but you have to remember who had to come bail you out from under a major one...and that goes for France as well. So...blow it out of your backside you doltish, German speaking loon!
Have a nice day
-Bruce Gorman
David van Braun:
Busch ist besser als Saddam in einem Million verschiedenen Wegen und der Tatsache, die Sie nicht sehen, daß das wirklich erschrickt, zu den uns Amerikaner und zur Welt ebenso erschrecken soll.
Alle Medien werden sich geneigt. Die Wahrheit liegt irgendwo in zwischen.
Unsere Welt hat auf Septeber 11th geändert. Wir können nicht mehr uns leistet, 3000 Leute zu verlieren, bevor wir handeln. Saddam hat ein Feuer Abkommen unterzeichnet aufhört, den Golf Krieg zu beenden. Die Begriffe wurden gesetzt. Wir haben für ihn 12 Jahre gewartet einzuhalten. Wir haben ihn vielmals gewarnt. Er hat diesen Krieg gewählt - wir machten nicht. Die Tatsache, die Sie und so viele mag Sie können sehen es - nicht sickening.
Übrigens beleidigt es zu Amerikanern, irgendeinen Esel zu haben, unseren Präsidenten beleidigt. Sie müssen ihn nicht mögen aber es ist offensichtlich, daß er klüger ist, als Sie.
Ich gebe keine Scheiße, die Sie denken, daß Clinton nett war. Sie wissen ihn von einem Loch in der Wand nicht. Noch Sie macht Busch wissen.
Haben Sie daß Clinton nett wann er Irak in 1999 gedacht war hat bombardiert? Haben Sie daß er nett wann er zu Kosovo gegen die Wünsche des U.N gedacht war ist gegangen? Wie um das?
(In English)
Bush is better than Saddam in a million different ways and the fact that you don't see that is really frightening to us Americans and should be frightening to the world as well.
All media is slanted. The truth lies somewhere in between.
Our world changed on Septeber 11th. We can no longer afford to lose 3000 people before we act.
Saddam signed a cease fire agreement to end the Gulf War. The terms were set. We have waited 12 years for him to comply. We warned him many times. He chose this war - we did not. The fact that you and so many like you can't see it - is sickening.
By the way, it is insulting to Americans to have some ass insult our President. You don't have to like him but it's obvious that he is smarter than you.
I don't give a shit that you think Clinton was nice. You don't know him from a hole in the wall. Nor do you know Bush.
Did you think that Clinton was nice when he bombed Iraq in 1999? Did you think he was nice when he went to Kosovo against the U.N's wishes? How about that?
Scott:
Your point is well taken. I agree he was a Republican in Democrat clothing. Except a Republican would NEVER waste a good cigar...
I meant Lefty God in terms of Hollywood and people in front of the cameras.
Lots of people were snowed by him. He betrayed most of Democratic core beliefs and he was never really called out on it. Glad you did though.
If Bush starts acting like a Dem I'll be screaming too!
o.k. wollen wir nicht versuchen einigkeit zu erlangen?
sie haben schon recht das es von mir nicht nett ist euren scheinbar geliebten präsidenten zu beleidigen. ich bin halt nur total sauer... sorry
ja sadamm ist ein verbrecher das stimmt, aber auf eure art und weise ist es falsch.
ja mein deutsch ist genauso schlecht wie das english. sorry kann nichts dafür (legasteniker)
ja clinton hat auch was begonnen, denoch war und ist er besser als mr. bush
merkt ihr denn nicht was in der welt los ist? proteste "all over the world"
ihr macht einen preventiv krieg das ist falsch
rache ist falsch
ihr wollt/braucht öl?
ihr seit der größe umweltsünder
ihr wollt die mächtigsten sein
ihr übergeht eine gewisse grenze
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eure eigenen leute protestieren, die medien fühlen sie belogen usw
peace
dave
www.undergroundstyle.net
First - Michael Moore is quite a hidious creature who only wished that his pappa would have said some nice things to him a few times when he was a child. As for winning an 'Academy Award'... awards are like hemeroids, eventually EVERY asshole get's them!
Second - Why does the "left" always accuse Bush of being stupid??? As I recall, he earned a degree from Yale, and got his MBA from Harvard, and flew jets in the National Guard. I myself am rather smart, yet I can make none of those claims about myself! He's certainly more intelligent than the average Hollywood jag-off!
Third - Somebody please just stuff a double-cheese burger into Michael Moores' fat face, and let's all hope that will shut him up for a spell! (^_^)
~The Conservative Pommy~
Before his embarrassing rant on TV, I dare say that 999 of 1,000 people in the civilized world had not a clue who Michael Moore was... Now a few of us know who he is, so I guess he THINKS he's accomplished some sort of mission... Although those of us who now know who he is do not truly care. As far as we're concerned, he's just another loud blubber-head who prefers that tyrants like Saddam remain in power. Somebody ought to tattoo the 'Star of David' onto his mug, and push him out of a helicopter into the streets of Palistine! Justice...
There are 6,325,000,000 people on this Earth today: One of them is Michael Moore. He wants to matter. He does not. Niether do you. Niether do I. But of the three of us, he's the one who needs to be smashed over the head with a cricket bat!
David van Braun:
Sie verstehen nicht. Sie werden nie verstehen. Demonstranten haben das Recht ihre Opposition übt - aber sie sind eine MINDERHEIT.
70% von Amerikanern unterstützt den Krieg. Busch hat Genehmigung Bewertungen in Britannien über 53%.
Die europäischen Länder, die die USA unterstützen, sind das derjenig, die unter einer bedrückenden Regierung und sind gelebt haben, jetzt frei.
Wenn wir das Öl gewollt haben - wir würden es kaufen. Wir haben das Geld.
Ein Ding für der Sie zu bedenken. Wann haben die USA WWII und zerschlagenen Hitler und den Dritten Reich eingetragen und haben auch am meisten von Europa - was Deutschland zu uns freigemacht hatte gemacht? Nichts. Wir sind dort gegangen und sind gestorben, weil es recht hatte. Wir haben Europa von einem Diktator freigemacht, der nichts den USA gemacht hatte, weil es recht hatte.
Jetzt machen wir es wieder. Diesmal werden wir bedroht und das macht einen Unterschied.
Deswegen sind viele von uns böse mit Frankreich und Deutschland.
Hunderte von Tausenden von unserem Mann sind gestorben, Ihr Land und andere und Sie zu sparen, zahlen uns mit Beleidigungen anstatt Dankbarkeit zurück. Sie rufen uns arrogant und Lügner. Sie sagen, daß ein mörderischer Metzger nein verschieden ist, daß unser Präsident. Sie sagen alle von diesem, während unsere Militärbasen in Deutschland sitzen, den Sie schützt, kann deshalb Deutschland sein Geld auf sozialen Programmen anstatt für seine eigene Verteidigung ausgeben sorgt. Nenne Sie uns rufen aber wer werden Sie wann den nächsten Diktator Versuche rufen, Deutschland zu übernehmen? Ihre guten Freunde die Amerikaner? Gute Freunde benehmen sich der Weg Deutschland und Frankreich sich nicht hat benommen. Sie hoffen besser, daß wir Sie Burschen irgendwann vergeben.
(In English - because my German isn't the best)
You don't understand. You will never understand.
Protesters have the right exercise their opposition - but they are a MINORITY.
70% of Americans support the war. Bush has approval ratings in Britain over 53%.
The European countries that support the U.S. are the ones that lived under an oppressive government and are now free.
If we wanted the oil - we'd buy it. We have the money.
One thing for you to consider. When the U.S. entered WWII and smashed Hitler and the Third Reich and also liberated most of Europe - what had Germany done to us? Nothing. We went there and died because it was right. We liberated Europe from a dictator that had done nothing to the U.S. because it was right.
Now we do it again. This time we are threatened and that makes a difference.
That is why many of us are angry with France and Germany.
Hundreds of thousands of our men died to save your country and others and you repay us with insults rather than gratitude. You call us arrogant and liars. You say that a murderous butcher is no different that our President. You say all of this while our military bases sit in Germany protecting you so Germany can spend its money on social programs rather than take care of its own defense. You call us names but who are you going to call when the next dictator tries to take over Germany? Your good friends the Americans? Good friends don't behave the way Germany and France have behaved. You better hope we forgive you guys someday.
David van Braun:
Vergeben Sie mein armes Deutsch. Es wird 17 Jahre gewesen, da ich es in der Schule studiert habe.
Ich kann das am besten ich mache. Ich will sicher nicht Sie durch Töten Ihrer Muttersprache beleidigen fördern.
Aufrichtig,
Rosemary
dear Rosemary Esmay,
ich bin 24 jahre jung. und komme aus der ehemaligen DDR. ich kann nichts dafür was hitler ausübte. und ja schön war das bestimmt nicht was er machte und nicht der einzigste von uns.
ja ihr habt und befreit aber auch die ehemalgie sowjetunion euer damaliger feind auch und andere.
und was haben eure vorgänger alles angestellt? was ist mit den ureinwohnern amerikas den indianern habt ihr auf sie nichts ausgeübt usw.
es bringt nichts über vergange zeiten zu reden wir müsseen unsere gemeinsame zukunft gestallten. und ich kann es garnicht offt genug sagen. was ihr macht ist falsch und hat sehr schlimme konsequenzen 100%ig.
achja wir deutschen hätten auch geld wenn wir nicht die kriegsstrafe von hitler abzahlen müßten.
und deswegen wollen wir nicht in waffen & tod investieren sondern versuchen eine neue ebene der vernupft aufzubauen.
hochachtungsvoll
ich
an alle amerikaner und engländer.
hiermit möchte ich mich im namen deutschlands bedanken das sie uns von hitler befreit haben und uns die changse gegeben haben etwas neues aufzubauen.
ja ich schäme mich auch als deutscher. konnte mir das aber nicht aussuchen.
ich trauer um eure gefallen helden die uns befreiten.
dennoch sage ich was ihr(bzw. bush) macht ist falsch. ihr seid noch benommen vom 11.september
hochachtungsvoll
ich
in english (translated with software, not so great sorry)
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At all Americans and Englishman.
With this I would like to thank freed have myself in the name of Germany that it us of hitler and given have the changse something new to construct to us. Yes I do not shame however was able to choose me also as More german. me that. Heros please us I sorrow around yours that freed. nevertheless I say makes is yet are conducted what its (bzw. bush) incorrectly. you of that 11. September
sincerely I
werte amerikaner. ein kleiner tip um euch zu helfen ruhe in allen staaten zu bringen.
das hättet ihr machen müssen und nichts anderes. und dann abwarten.
statt bomben auf die iraker zu werfen, wirft lebensmittel, süßigkeiten, wasser, medikamente (kann auch jod sein) auf sie. dadurch könntet ihr gunst gewinnen. wie bush so schön sagte sadamm wird nicht wissen wie ihm geschiet, dann würden die iraker von anfang an für euch sein auch wenn sie euch nicht so mögen. und alles wäre vielleicht anders gekommen.
"Falsely bloated economy"??????
Dude, only a major fucking douche-bag would term the greatest economic expansion EVER in our country's history "falsely bloated." Your fucking dickhead is falsely bloated with your own bullshit. Bush's recession began March 01. Since then, the stock market has lost 1/4 of its value, over 2 million people have lost their jobs, and 10 years of projected budget surpluses have become 10 years of deficits. And you have the fucking balls to say "it's Clinton's fault"? You are a dickless moron asshole. Keep sucking Republican dick, maybe a few pennies will cum out in your mouth. Prick.
Hey BJK:
I agree that I am dickless since I am a WOMAN. You retarded moron fuck.
The recession started in 2000. And even if you are remotely correct that it started in March 01.
It still can't be Bush's fault - asshole. He had no effect on it since he'd only been president for a handful of weeks. Don't you remember Dass-hole crying that the economy was going bad because Bush/Cheney were bad mouthing it like a french whore, while campaigning, starting about March 2000. Reading is fundamental - perhaps you should try it.
I have the balls to say THE TRUTH. You on the other hand don't even have the BRAINS to think for yourself.
My husband is a registered Democrat - so I guess the only dick near my mouth is - like Monica Lewinsky's - a Democrat.
Go fuck yourself you jag-off. While your at it - why don't you fantasize the Democrats a platform with actual ideas. You've got until 2008 before they'll need any.
You are a dickless moron asshole.
Tsk tsk tsk. The intellectual superiority of the Democrats is thus displayed for all to see.
"BJK" is clearly almost as smart as Michael Moore, perhaps as smart as Moores gallbladder. Perhaps "BJK" IS Michael Moores gallbladder.
But then again, that can't be true, because a gall bladder has a function, a purpose in the world, and clearly, "BJK" is a Democrat.
A Democrat with smegma breath.
Two comments on Clinton.
1. I don't mind that he got his rocks off in the White House. I mind that he lied about it. If he had stood up and said "Yeah, I fucked her, what about it?" He would have had my complete respect. But of course, he was never man enough to tell the truth, which, of course, was my basic problem with him.
(In reality, Bill Clinton and I are very much alike, except that I am honest about being a complete dick.)
2. We have no reason to beleive that he did not smoke that cigar afterwards.
And by the way, I think it's clear that "BJK" stands for Blow Job King.
Maybe that's why BJK is so facinated with the word "dick".
Smegma Breath - thanks's for that one, I got a visual.
Thanks to you all for such an entertaining evening of colorful comments and opinions to read before bedtime. I look forward to peeking in again from time to time.
:-)
Thanks for taking the time to do this-to point out to the world what a traitor fool Michael Moore really is (just in case someone doesn't know already!)I'd like to see him live in a country where he's starved, raped, or killed just for speaking his opinion--then we'll see how much he opposes everyone in power of our great country.
mikey,
you are one of the most stupid persons in the world
I can't figure out which country put Saddam's Ba-ath party in power, then gave them the name of all the communists in the country to execute. Then gave Saddam chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons during the entire 1980's, along with military information to help "liqudate" the kurds and use chemical weapons on Iran. Crap, what country was that again? Must of been one with very high morals.
PS Those Hitler - Saddam comparsions are so cute. As if we entered WWII to save the Jews (might of been help to bomb the train lines to Auschwitz if that was the case - do your homework) and as if we intervene militarily to help people around the world. How about Suharto in Indonesia, he's killed more of "his own people" then Saddam (with our weapons), but our government's comment was "he's our kind of guy." The Turkish gov. regularly conducts reprisals against the Kurds and even bombed Kurdish strongfronts in northern Iraq during the 1990's, but we didn't have a problem with that. Let's get over this idea that our foreign policy works on some sort of altruistic basis - it's realpolitik, plain and simply. There is no room for ethics.
J:
PS Those Hitler - Saddam comparsions are so cute. As if we entered WWII to save the Jews (might of been help to bomb the train lines to Auschwitz if that was the case - do your homework) and as if we intervene militarily to help people around the world.
Hey re-read what I actually said - not what you THINK I said.
Did you learn any of the lessons of WWII and Hitler. How many people could have survived the train ride to Aushwitz had we decided that although the Germans did nothing to us - maybe we should help out?
READING IS FUNDAMENTAL - YOU SHOULD TRY IT.
I have a family that survived Hitler and the Nazi's no thank's to FDR'S pussyfooting, okay. So don't lecture me.
I can't figure out which country put Saddam's Ba-ath party in power, then gave them the name of all the communists in the country to execute. Then gave Saddam chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons during the entire 1980's, along with military information to help "liqudate" the kurds and use chemical weapons on Iran. Crap, what country was that again? Must of been one with very high morals.
I love this argument. We are to blame so we have to live with it.
We used to think asbestos was GOOD. We found out it was dangerous - we got rid of it.
You are suggesting that we should have to live with it. Not correct a mistake...
Good one. How's that mesothelioma doing asswipe?
The US gave Iraq nuclear weapons during the 80's?
I don't know where to start!
1) What source do you have for that claim?
2) There once was an Iraqi nuclear power plant. It was built by the French. How quickly some forget.
3) If Iraq's nuclear weapons were given by the US, then they would have no problem documenting how many of them they had, and could destroy them. Instead, they lied to inspectors, prevented nuclear scientists from talking, and hid weapons. Very nice.
I'm not sure who is more biased right now; the guy who wrote this article or Der Fuhrer Herr Moore.
Honestly, you try to "pick" apart Moore's non-existant argument by using the same means he does. Which, in return, makes you just as bad as Moore in the first place. Also, you adding your OPINION about how "Clinton deserved impeachment" doesn't add anything to your argument. Your detestment of left-wing supporters just shows your true political hidden agenda.
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Do I agree that Moore is a Mooron (yes, I spelled that purposely, look, I'm so witty!)? Yes.
Do I agree that you are right on anything else you said in that article: ...Nope, sorry.
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There's just way too many opinions in that article for me to agree with it. You speak of Moore's lying tactics, well, you're just contributing to them.
Blah BLah Blah! Now im really angry! GOO GOD! WHo gives a flying fuck about what some director thinks? Michael Moore is just another schmuck in the good ol' U.S. of A. who spouts his opinion with emotions instead of facts and wisdom. Just like the rest of you dumb fucks down there in the U.S. Get a fucking life!
I'm not sure who is more biased right now; the guy who wrote this article or Der Fuhrer Herr Moore.
First off - I'm not a guy. Second - it was a rant not an article. I am openly biased. I think that I am right - all the time. So there.
Honestly, you try to "pick" apart Moore's non-existant argument by using the same means he does. Which, in return, makes you just as bad as Moore in the first place.
No, I picked apart a letter that he mailed to the President of the United States. I didn't use the same "means" that he did. I picked apart fallacies. I'm not as bad because I show respect for the president of the U.S. regardless of what his party affiliation is.
Also, you adding your OPINION about how "Clinton deserved impeachment" doesn't add anything to your argument. Your detestment of left-wing supporters just shows your true political hidden agenda.
It is not my OPINION. It is fact, based on a little thing we call LAWS. I do not DETEST left-wing supporters.I do not even detest the left-wing. I do detest stupidity and disrespectful behavior. I have no "hidden agenda". I'm very open.
Do I agree that you are right on anything else you said in that article: ...Nope, sorry.
Do I give a shit? No - not at all. I only care to correct mistakes. Other than that - whatever.
There's just way too many opinions in that article for me to agree with it. You speak of Moore's lying tactics, well, you're just contributing to them.
DUH! Nothing EVER written ANYWHERE is without opinions. How am I possibly contributing to Moore being a liar? Please tell...if you can.
J.Younge:
I care. You don't. So what? You're a Canuck aren't ya?
I have a life - you have just invaded it with insults and bullshit.
Fuck off!
What's the difference between Michael Moore and a 500-pound sack of horse manure?
The sack!
I don't think you understand that Michael Moore is an entertainer first and an educator second. Yes, he exaggerates at times to get his point across, but the truth of the matter is that he does check his facts, he does know what he's talking about, and he does uncover a lot of information that might not otherwise get out there. If you visit his website, these facts and their sources are very well documented. Enjoy!
I'd also like to mention that being a patriot does not necessarily mean you blindly follow every whim of our elected leaders. A patriot is one who loves his country... thus exercising the right to free speech, challenging the opinions of those who might cause damage to our country, and trying to keep our citizens from getting killed in an unnecessary war might just be more patriotic than believing that there are weapons of mass destruction in a country half way across the world that could cause us any damage whatsoever. Also, no WMD have been found yet... not even the ones we sold them about 20 years ago and destroyed 10 years ago.
Further, many have stated here that they are "openly biased" and that they are "always right". These are very difficult to deal with as people who are "always right" don't really care much about facts that contradict what they say is right. This makes it an "opinion". But that's a fact, so you can, as an American, choose not to believe it.
Oh, by the way, the word "patriot" is derived from a French word... just thought I'd add that little "fact".
#1. I understand plenty. If he exaggerates then he isn't TELLING the TRUTH. He may check facts but he intreprets them with a slanted eye and only presents partial truths.
He may be an "entertainer" but he is no educator. He is a loudmouthed college dropout. I seen his website - its loaded with mischaracherizations and factual inaccuracies.
I know what patriotism is and what it isn't. I certainly don't need you to "explain" it to me. I did not in any paragraph call Moore unpatriotic. I called him fat, untalented and an idiot. All facts.
So you can take your talking points and blow em .
Stating that I'm openly biased makes me more honest than YOU and Mr. Moore. I care plenty about facts which is why I decided to analyze Mr. Moore's letter to the president.
You can believe that the war was unneccessary but I daresay think that the Iraqi people would disagree.
Since you brought up being a patriot. Let's see how www.dictionary.com defines it.
Definition of patriot: One who loves his country, and zealously supports its authority and interests. One who loves and defends his or her country. One who loves, supports, and defends one's country.
Yep, I'm just not seeing Michael Moore here.
Whatever.
My dear Rosemary-
It's not as if the petty nature of your diatribe against Michael Moore hasn't already betrayed your ignorance... but try looking up "mischaracherizations" at www.dictionary.com hehe
Your "analysis" of Mr. Moore's letter to the president is a laughable cocktail of rehashed conservative rhetoric, schoolyard etiquette, and the crass propaganda of Fox News. While Mr. Moore's approach may be a bit coarse, at least he shows the common sense that you so sorely lack. Your words read like the immature reactionism of a TV-educated brat who never bothered to remove her red-white-and-blue sunglasses when the clouds came rolling in. Grow up.
You would embarrass even the crudest conservatives here at Princeton.
Thank you Princeton '06 for saying something reasonable, educated, and true. I looked at this page thinking it was going to be somewhat of a laugh, and I'm even finding it hard to do that because of the sad inebriation from the cocktail Princeton so aptly describes.
It's definitely unfortunate to see someone put in so much effort on degrading an opinion of another when they could have been using their time much better to look at what is actually going on, think about it, and come up with an individual view instead of blindly following Murdoch's mass media blitz.
To the Children from Princeton and Wesleyan:
When you get a Ph.D. from a school that Mom and Dad didn't pay for - you can talk to me. Go back to your sandbox children this room is for grown-ups.
Typos happen to everybody - asswipe. The fact that you would try to belittle me because I made one - makes you an ass.
You couldn't match wits with me on your best day. So shove your degree - to - be - named - later up your ass.
I have a Master's in Bio-Chemistry with minors in Russian and Polish. I graduated Phi Beta Kappa in both Grad and Undergrad from a large Michigan University.
I promise you both - when you grow up - if you have a brain you'll be conservatives. If not you'll be losers.
People like you make me so angry.
Even if Michael isn't all that many believe he is, at the very least he puts accross his argument in a very grown up and intelligent way.
More and more it is being revealed that while he may not speak for what is popular, he certainly speaks for what is right.
Weapons of Mass Destruction indeed...
Brett Robb
Australia
I make you angry? You have some issues then.
I guess it's a good thing you live in Australia - you won't have to ever see me.
Moore is full of it and he hardly speaks of what is right. You can agree with him but I along with a hearty majority of Iraqi citizens - do not.
The biggest Weapon of Mass Destuction (Saddam Hussein)is out of commission.
Yeah well I couldn't find my sandbox, Rosemary, so I came back to the grown-ups' room... If it means being called an asswipe again by the grown-up in residence, all the better.
Here, I'll have another crack at the coveted asswipe title. Rosemary - I really like your creative use of the dash - it adds a flash of white trash panache to the hopelessly brash mishmash that you put forth to bash Michael Moore. C'mon Rosemary, that oughta be worth an "asswipe" at LEAST!
But seriously, folks... Rosemary must be one smart cookie. Just look at those credentials! Phi Beta Kappa, the nation's most prestigious academic honor society! A Master's Degree in Biochemistry, one of the hottest topics in today's scientific research community! Minors in Russian and Polish, two really cool languages, especially popular in Russia and Poland! Honestly, those are quite impressive credentials. Yet when her arguments are challenged (her arguments are always *challenged* one way or another), Rosemary reverts to calling her opponent an asswipe. Indeed, that was the substance of her initial case against Michael Moore: calling him a big, fat idiot! Is that how they teach you to argue the large Michigan Universities? Or is that just what you call your obvious intellectual superiors?
Look, I know I was asking for an insult by delivering that silly quip about your typo. Hell, I'm asking for it again by making fun of your colorful punctuation (and I do hope you deliver, my dear Rosemary). But hey, let's be friends, huh?
One more thing: I promise you in turn that when I grow up, I will still have a brain and it will still function quite well, enabling me to retain my liberal ideals. Will I be a loser, then? Let's examine this a little more closely, Rosemary. Take, for example, the groves of Academe: my favorite sector of the grown-up population. Now I can't speak for the professors at the large Michigan Universities, but certainly the preponderant share of professors at the nation's top schools (fine institutions like Princeton and Wesleyan) is liberal beyond a doubt. Hey, not just liberal. Liberal, way more intelligent than you or I, and about as far from loser status as one can get in my esteem. That is, until they start calling their ideological opponents asswipes.
Yet when her arguments are challenged (her arguments are always *challenged* one way or another), Rosemary reverts to calling her opponent an asswipe.
Not always challenged. Challenged a lot though. That is the beauty of living in America, is it not. In all honesty, if everyone agreed with me this would be a boring place to live. Michael Moore isn't my opponent - he was my target and an asswipe as well.
Indeed, that was the substance of her initial case against Michael Moore: calling him a big, fat idiot! Is that how they teach you to argue the large Michigan Universities? Or is that just what you call your obvious intellectual superiors?
Actually, the title was taken from Al Franken's book "Rush Limbaugh is a big, fat, idiot".
Michael Moore is my intellectual superior? Are you kidding? You guys must get some good smoke at Princeton. Be careful pot can cause permanent memory loss.
I treated Moore with the same respect he treated President Bush. ZERO.
If you think that makes him superior - you have issues. I took the exact same exception to conservatives lashing out and belittling President Clinton. The POTUS deserves respect whether or not you agree with the title holder.
Now regarding the asswipe comment. Let me speak slowly. I DID NOT CALL YOU AN ASSWIPE BECAUSE YOU ARE IDEOLOGICALLY DIFFERENT. I CALLED YOU AN ASSWIPE BECAUSE YOU ACTED LIKE ONE. BY INSINUATING THAT MY TYPO WAS SOMEHOW RELATED TO MY INTELLECT RATHER THAN MY ABILITY TO TYPE.
That,in my opinion, made you an ass. You are free to disagree, of course.
As to the rest of your nonsense - I stand by the fact you will someday grow-up.
It is pointless to describe to a child exactly how the world works. You shall learn through experience.