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February 19, 2003

How Nice

So. The Germans have convicted Mounir El Motassadeq of 3,066 counts of accessory to murder for his part in 9/11. He got the maximum sentence under German law: 15 years.

He's 28. He'll be 43 when he gets out. Assuming no time off for good behavior or parole.

Thanks again, Germany.

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3,066! By German standards that makes him a piker!

Posted by Paul Fallon on February 19, 2003 at 2:43 PM


Ouch!!!

Posted by Dean Esmay on February 19, 2003 at 2:52 PM


And 5 counts of attempted murder, that must be where 10 of those years come from.

Posted by Kurt Preston on February 19, 2003 at 5:20 PM


Too bad the Germans couldn't send him over here to serve his time in an American state prison. From his appearance, this little fellow seems like the type to whom some 275 lb 'groom' would quickly teach a whole new meaning of the word "stretch", in a classic shower-room marriage.

Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI

Posted by Arnold Harris on February 19, 2003 at 8:50 PM


3,066! Only fifteen years for 3,066!? Let's just hope he accidentally drops him soap-on-a-rope and some ruthless Nazi teaches him the real meaning of the word "punishment."

Posted by Trinity on February 19, 2003 at 11:34 PM


Why is it that nobody talks about extradition? I am sure no statute of limitations exists for 3,066 murders or 5 counts of attempted murder in NY state.

Posted by Kevin Brehmer on February 20, 2003 at 8:14 AM


That’s great. When he gets out Mr. Motassadeq will party with his fellow terrorists and plot another terrorist attack on America!

Posted by Kevin Brehmer on February 20, 2003 at 2:34 PM


I'm uncertain if Germany is among them, but many European countries refuse extradition if there is any possibility that the extradited party might face the death penalty.

Posted by B. on February 20, 2003 at 2:54 PM


Yes, Germany is among those European countries that will not extradite if there is the chance of a death sentence

Posted by Joel Fleming on February 21, 2003 at 11:04 PM


Well, the Attorney General could assure the German government they would not pursue the death sentence and they could go for life imprisonment. The death sentence isn't the be all and end all of capital cases. Certainly a life sentence or even a 50 year sentence would be better than 15 years!

And prison is the punishment, gentlemen, not anal rape. I find it rather disturbing that so many people find prison rape acceptable. Prison rape is a crime and those who commit it deserve to be charged and tried for it. It's criminal behavior and it shouldn't be encouraged. The people who are willing and encouraged to rape people in prison do not stop doing so at the prison gate. No matter how deserving we may think the recipient of such torture is if we decry Pakistani juries who sentence people to be raped, we should not be so happy when someone takes the power away from a jury and decided to "punish" someone themselves.

Otherwise if rape is such a great tool of punishment let's allow our judges and juries to sentence people to be raped.

Just a thought.

Posted by Dustin on February 22, 2003 at 1:48 PM


Hi!

What you guys might forget: in germany a life sentence is 15 years. Afterwards you don't get out of jail - your behavior in relation to case-strength makes it easy to put you in jail for another 15 years or they send you right to the funny farm. It's just the fact that there's no death sentence. Be sure - in germany these guys will fear the day they'll get out. There are enough people who will remember his name! And these are no Nazis! They're much more popular in america or south americe!

bjoern from germany, old-europe (not very old america - god bless you with a new president)

Posted by bjoern on August 14, 2003 at 11:38 AM


 



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