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June 25, 2002

Marriage Penalty Musings

Garrett Moritz over at gTexts has some thoughts on the Marriage Penalty, and further thoughts on the matter, all of which are completely wrong and not worth reading, let alone responding to.

Okay, just kidding. He makes several good points, and in an entertaining fashion. However, I do think he misses something, or several somethings. To no one's surprise, I'd like to share some of what I think. Moritz is dead right to say that...

...the marriage-penalty debate seems strangely twisted. I think some of that strangeness has to do with stereotypes. For example, I suspect you'll find very few conseratives (outside of sitcoms, The West Wing, or Paul Begala's fever-dreams) who would be so appalled by the prospect of stay-at-home dads as to view them as a threat to the Republic.

In fact, I think the marriage penalty issue reveals something I've talked about before: today's so-called conservative movement is, in fact, a progressive liberal movement pushing for social change, while the wrongly-labeled "liberals" are pretty much the status-quo, authoritarian reactionaries. To prove this point, I've often asked people to name one new Big Idea or proposal for major reform to come out of America's political Left in the last decade. Other than to mention nationalizition and/or greater regulation of various industries (which is, arguably, really a right-wing idea), the response is usually silence.

Anyway, I've led a fairly well-traveled life, but I've never met a person of any political stripe who does not advocate equal pay for equal work or allowing women to persue whatever careers they want (except, I guess, combat soldier). This includes highly conservative Christian Fundamentalists I've been priviledged to be friends with. Even Pat Buchanan, everyone's favorite example of a "right-wing extremist," wrote that when he was growing up in the 1950s, his sisters and mom all had jobs, and that in his extremely conservative Catholic family, feminists were "pushing against an open door" until they started advocating things like abortion-on-demand as a civil right. (See his highly entertaining autobiography Right From The Beginning--I'll dig out the page #s if anyone really wants me to.)

Where are these conservatives who want women out of the workplace? Laura Schlesinger? The extent of her extremism, aside from the sharp tongue she uses in expressing it, is to advocate that moms stay at home for at least the first year after a child is born, and thereafter either father or mother should always be with the child. She praises families who arrange their schedules so that both parents work at different times so one of them can be at home for the kids. (My wife and I do this, by the way.)

This question is rhetorical, but I'll ask it again: where are these conservatives who would, as a matter of course, advocate legal penalties for people who don't live like Ward and June Cleaver? They may exist somewhere; in a country of 300 million people, you can find people who believe anything I suppose. I happen to know one American citizen who is a (quite serious) advocate for creating a Monarchy, although he's otherwise pretty much a soft-shell socialist. But is he a movement?

It often seems to conservatives that people who argue with them are really arguing with what they think conservatives advocate, rather than what they actually do advocate (not that they're never guilty of same). Of course, maybe I'm reading too much into Moritz' brief comments. Rumor has it that he has a sense of humor, and he probably wasn't expecting quite so lengthy response to a throwaway line.

Beyond these broad-scale generalizations, however, Moritz hits the bullseye when he notes that the "marriage penalty" is really only a penalty on homes with two earners, and eliminating it will only help those households. It seems strange that social conservatives are not at least talking about doing more to help one-earner households.

My wife and I have often mused about this; it hasn't been my only disappointment with the Bush domestic agenda, but it's been my biggest. For the first couple of years after our son was born, Rosemary stayed home full-time. Due to serious problems in my career, she eventually had to find work outside the home. It was a major concern for us, because it looked like tax penalties would eat up a good portion of whatever benefit we got from her income. It's hard to express how it feels when you're getting phone calls from bill collectors, can practically smell your credit report smoking, and suddenly realize that, once again, the "progressive" tax system is going to fuck things up for you.

You would think that social conservatives would advocate doing more for families where, for example, one member takes part-time work in order to supplement the family's income. You would also think they would advocate much higher standard-deductions to help families who make the financial sacrifice of losing a second income to stay home with the kids; while Moritz rightly points out that the tax code currenty favors them, it doesn't favor them much.

If social conservatives really wanted to help traditional families, they'd advocate something along the lines of doubling the standard deduction for married couples with children who have only one earner, or for two earners when one earner makes, oh, let's say less than half of what the other makes (we can leave it to policy wonks to come up with more specifics). There are things like that which social conservatives among the political class in Washington could be arguing for, but are not. It's disappointing; while I don't consider myself a social conservative, in this area I would think society could benefit from their voice, which seems strangely silent.

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Two points from a alternate view:

1) The problem with the marriage penalty is that it discourages marriage between people who are already living together in a committed relationship.

2) Raising a child is an expensive proposition, but why should non-parents pay more taxes than parents? Shouldn't those who choose to conserve community resources pay less than those who choose to expend them? I don't pay more to the electrical company when I use less power.

Posted by Owen Strawn on June 25, 2002 at 8:37 AM


On point 1: Yes, that is the problem. No social conservative should argue to discourage marriage. What a social conservative might argue for, reasonably, would be a tax benefit to help stay-at-home parents (of either sex) be better able to afford that choice. I do not accept the logic that just because they have a minor advantage now that this is truly a "benefit." The current system is merely a penalty for being married if both people work.

As for point #2: Except for the most profoundly disabled, I believe children are a net benefit to society. Furthermore, it is arguably in the best interests of society to see that what children we do have are raised in a healthy environment. Asking the government to lift the burden a little on people who choose to take direct responsibility for raising their children (as opposed to asking daycare workers to do half of it) seems like a reasonable thing to advocate. Strange that social conservatives are silent on this issue, where their voice would be expected to be loudest.

Posted by Dean Esmay on June 29, 2002 at 3:28 AM


You’re both wrong. The problem is that you argue that ANY politician should have ANY discretionary power over how you personally decide to spend ANY of your own damn money. As long as we have an income tax, we will be debating these trifles. The only way to have any control over any of your own damn money is to abolish the Sixteenth Amendment and with it the Infernal Revenue Code.

Today you debate whether conservative values should be applied in ASKING politicians in Washington D.C. for a tax break. Tomorrow you might well be debating whether Social Security taxes should be increased to 25% of your before tax income. Do not laugh. All you need is Democrat control of congress for this nightmare to come true. The only way to end these nightmare discussions is to completely abolish the Income Tax by revoking the Sixteenth Amendment.

Respectfully,

Kevin Brehmer

Posted by kevin brehmer on July 08, 2002 at 11:50 AM


I too, hate paying taxes. But how do you propose handling the maintenance of roads, bridges, public places, National Parks, the socially and financially downtrodden, and all the other amenities and services that taxes pay for?

Yes, we came to America partially because we were heavily taxed. But that was Taxation Without Representation.

Yes, we need to be fiscally aware of taxation and responsible in the spending of tax dollars. We are often horribly corrupt in this area.

Taxes are not the problem- the abuse of taxes and their intent is...

Posted by Rory McDonald on April 21, 2003 at 10:21 PM


So basically, any amount of taxation is okay, right?

Personally, I consider anything over 10% an obscenity. And expect them to be more responsible with my money, doing more with less. But that's just me.

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